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Offline kasMVC

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Re: Please stop adding things that are uncounterable
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2013, 07:20:44 pm »
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I just saw allers nudge with a 1h, switch to his bar mace, and swing for the kill.

Maybe the enemy could have blocked or maybe swapping weapons is faster than recovering from a nudge.

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Re: Please stop adding things that are uncounterable
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2013, 07:23:20 pm »
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I just saw allers nudge with a 1h, switch to his bar mace, and swing for the kill.

Maybe the enemy could have blocked or maybe swapping weapons is faster than recovering from a nudge.
The enemy fucked up here, slower 1h with low wpf can't even get a hit in after the nudge with the most stun, imo they shouldn't be able to do so, but still...
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: Please stop adding things that are uncounterable
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2013, 10:32:25 pm »
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The enemy fucked up here, slower 1h with low wpf can't even get a hit in after the nudge with the most stun, imo they shouldn't be able to do so, but still...
You could always kick your enemy after you nudge.
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Re: Please stop adding things that are uncounterable
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2013, 11:21:14 pm »
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You could always kick your enemy after you nudge.
True, but pretty sure you can't kick while changing weapon, and the kickstun ain't long enough for a barmace hit + unsheating a new weapon.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: Please stop adding things that are uncounterable
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2013, 11:50:52 pm »
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No! Nudge is a great counter for those nasty hoplites. Just needs some adjustments. Bring on pommelstrike and shieldbash!
Although the hold-attack nudge really stuns way too long. It's like a kick, but easier.

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Re: Please stop adding things that are uncounterable
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2013, 03:50:17 am »
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I completely agree with this, as having used a HX I know firsthand how uncounterable it is, obviously I know how irritating they can be for all other classes. Currently I am playing an 18/21 archer with 6 powerstrike and 50 1h wpf and I can beat all players that I can block and facehug by simply nudge spamming them. Also, if your nudge misses, it can often be a very, very convincing feint as I usually will land a hit before they do even it my nudge misses. Due to how strange being nudged is, it puts players off their routine combat style so everything seems to work better against them.
Although all nudges that are not the attack nudge are fairly useless in combat for me, takes far too long for you to recover after nudging.
However I think nudging is a very good idea, I would like to see more pommelstrikes and shieldbashing implemented, I wouldn't have thought that people would have continually chopped and block eachother with their choppers until one dies :).
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Re: Please stop adding things that are uncounterable
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2013, 07:44:35 pm »
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You know nudge is an I-win button when people with zero 1h wpf run around with a 1-hander just so they can nudge/kick/kill. Apparently, some of them have managed to squeeze a weapon switch into this sequence. As if a free hit from a 1h weapon wasn't bad enough, now you have to deal with being nudged->kicked->1-shot by a 2h weapon.

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Re: Please stop adding things that are uncounterable
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2013, 08:44:56 pm »
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You know nudge is an I-win button when people with zero 1h wpf run around with a 1-hander just so they can nudge/kick/kill. Apparently, some of them have managed to squeeze a weapon switch into this sequence. As if a free hit from a 1h weapon wasn't bad enough, now you have to deal with being nudged->kicked->1-shot by a 2h weapon.

you can chamber those kicks even when you're nudge stunned

Just a reminder :P

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Re: Please stop adding things that are uncounterable
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2013, 08:51:16 pm »
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Just a reminder :P

So duels in cRPG have evolved from the stupid hiltslash squaredance to:
-Player 1 punches Player 2
-Player 1 tries to kick Player 2, who executes a kick slightly after Player 1
-Player 1 falls down
-Player 2 punches Player 1
-Player 2 tries to kick Player 1, who executes a kick slightly after Player 2
-Player 2 falls down
...rinse, repeat

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Re: Please stop adding things that are uncounterable
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2013, 03:33:53 pm »
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yeah, it's just a little bit silly tbh, there's nothing you can do to counter either of them

literally the skill involved with nudge is:
hold your attack until you are facehugging a shielder, press V, free hit
wrinse and repeat
in what possible way is this a fun or skill based mechanic ?

the same thing applies for HX

run away spamming shots as long as you can, if you see an archer run away, other than that there's nothing infantry can do to hurt you at all.
 Shoot, stay just out of an infantry's range, wrinse and repeat until you hit him enough times to kill him. You literally have no predators as HX.
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Re: Please stop adding things that are uncounterable
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2013, 01:30:01 pm »
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just wait for shieldbash vs nudge and special rage through vs HX,  where you can throw any normal weapon you have against HXs. 
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Re: Please stop adding things that are uncounterable
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2013, 01:33:14 pm »
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I played some duel recently and was instantly turned away due to this "nudge"  :rolleyes:
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Re: Please stop adding things that are uncounterable
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2013, 01:37:14 pm »
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I played some duel recently and was instantly turned away due to this "nudge"  :rolleyes:


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Re: Please stop adding things that are uncounterable
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2013, 02:27:13 pm »
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I think nudges should kill horses and pierce armour maybe 38p?

The reach should be greater and you should be able to kick swing and nudge while moving.
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Re: Please stop adding things that are uncounterable
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2013, 06:38:11 pm »
+1
I've tried to be positive but nudge is a broken, BS mechanic, currently.