Let`s talk about reverse political prejudism.

[Panos]

Lol this made me laugh. Did he really say that? I thought Communism was against classing people after races.

he said it when he failed to help them revolt in Africa.

a google research will help you understand what a piece of shit che was .

Let's talk about how absolutely ridiculous this whole thread is instead, being offended by a quote of a song on a guys forum profile that was played when a 50 years dead person left Cuba.

I don't think you can get more sensitive on the internet than that.

Vibe, you know that I don`t mind trolling or jokes against Greece, but communism in general braught many bad things in Greece, along with a civil war after the WW2 ended, did you know that the civil war that the commies started in Greece, took double the lives of Greeks than the WW2 combined with starvation at that time??

My grandfather got injured by a grenade commies threw at him, he was 15 years old, not a soldier not nothing, 20 years later, he died from lung cancer because some fragments of the grenade couldnt be removed from his lungs..

So, yes I`m really touchy about communists.

[Leshma]

yeah sure, look at China and North Korea, god I feel so jelly of them..

I'm envious of Chinese people who live in cities.

About Guevara, I've read somewhere that particular line was taken out of context but he said something like that. Also, he said that first time he encountered black people in Miami when he was a hotheaded 24 year old, very similar to you Panos.

[Teeth]

You mistake horrible people that lead these countries with a political belief that isn't half bad.

Communism is a great idea, if it weren't for it's complete incompatibility with human nature. Communism will always fuck up in practice which makes it a pretty bad political belief.

That said, feeling offended by 'Death is certain, life is not', which is a quote, in itself unrelated to communism, from a song that was used by someone who was arguably bad and affiliated with an arguably bad ideology, is pretty messed up.

[Vibe]

Communism is a great idea, if it weren't for it's complete incompatibility with human nature. Communism will always fuck up in practice which makes it a pretty bad political belief.

unfortunately true

That said, feeling offended by 'Death is certain, life is not', which is a quote, in itself unrelated to communism, from a song that was used by someone who was arguably bad and affiliated with an arguably bad ideology, is pretty messed up.

I call it attention seeking

[Panos]

I call it attention seeking

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I was talking about his AVATAR.

And yes, as people feel offended when someone posts something relative to YMCA or einstein, I feel the same to that.

[Micah]

if you support Language Controle , i will support this 

[Angantyr]

Communism is a great idea, if it weren't for it's complete incompatibility with human nature. Communism will always fuck up in practice which makes it a pretty bad political belief.

There is in International Politics a school called 'realism' that argues that all wide-sweeping ideologies, all great 'dreams' of man of utopian or near-utopian societies (be it far left or right), the only right way, of course are just that, dreams, and that the historical record shows us that these are not only unachievable they are in fact the most dangerous for society. Rationality and a realistic approach to what is actually within our limits, usually through means of compromise has hitherto proved to be the most fruitful, the political realist would argue.

I'm envious of Chinese people who live in cities.

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[Kafein]

My grandfather got injured by a grenade commies threw at him, he was 15 years old, not a soldier not nothing, 20 years later, he died from lung cancer because some fragments of the grenade couldnt be removed from his lungs..

So, yes I`m really touchy about communists.

Think this through before you post, if you believe that makes it any less ridiculous.

[Panos]

Think this through before you post, if you believe that makes it any less ridiculous.

I don`t care if it makes it any or more ridiculous in your eyes to be honest.

[Henry_Broodsonson]

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[Armpit_Sweat]

Want to see some proper communism ( socialism )? Come to Scandinavia! That is how that shit had to be implemented in the first place!
 
Imo it is about people, way more, than it is about some piece-of-shit paper laws. I pay 39% tax here, and i don't mind! Not at all! Since I know it will cover education, free medical care, concerts, all sorts of youth programs etc. In Russia, where i was born, i would not pay even 5% tax, since all will be stolen or lost by greedy unprofessional fat fucks.
No matter what form of government you make "on paper" in some countries, it will be the same shithole! Just by calling something a democracy, does not change ANYONE inside that country, these are the same people today, as they were yesterday. And if you do a revolution, and kill every "bad guy", even worse ones emerge inevitably. That is how i see it. So i like the socialistic ideas of communism, and willing to work towards them, as long as it is being done by the right people.
 
Same goes for "communists killed so many people" talk... These people would kill in the name of anything - religion, politics, bad weather, entertainment. There was no communism few hundred years ago, and it did not stop anyone from killing, torturing, raping countless humans. Just as democracy did not stop anyone from carpet-bombing civilians in 20th century.

[IR_Kuoin]

Scandinavia, fuck yeah!

[Angantyr]

The form is not real socialism, of course. Historically it is loosely based on Bismarck's old idea of pronounced social security as an anti-revolutionary measure ('national-liberals' in the early Scandinavian democracies were basically a landowning conservative class much like the Prussian Junkers with whom the idea originated) coupled with nation-wide sympathy for your 'countrymen' post WWII German occupation of Denmark and Norway, combined with the economic boom of the 60s and relatively small, very homogenous populations where people are generally trustful of each other and (even) the state.

The Danish, Norwegian and Swedish Social-Democrats who invented the modern 'Scandinavian Well-fare Model' drew on both socialism and liberalism (which makes geo-political sense considering it was conceived during the Cold War). A big state and the highest taxes in the world aside, the economic system is entirely as capitalistic as the rest of the 'globalised' world.

[darmaster]

There is in International Politics a school called 'realism' that argues that all wide-sweeping ideologies, all great 'dreams' of man of utopian or near-utopian societies (be it far left or right), the only right way, of course are just that, dreams, and that the historical record shows us that these are not only unachievable they are in fact the most dangerous for society. Rationality and a realistic approach to what is actually within our limits, usually through means of compromise has hitherto proved to be the most fruitful, the political realist would argue.

:/ hmm this way of thinking wouldn't have brought many good things, like french revolution and women rights (don't know how good it is lol joking). i'm hoping in the future thinking of equality will be "normal" and won't be an utopia as it is now, as it has been for universal suffrage and slavery and so on.

[Kafein]

I don`t care if it makes it any or more ridiculous in your eyes to be honest.

It's not about me. As an adult you are expected to be above generalising a whole group of people based on what a few of them did bad. That is, considering them as individuals.

:/ hmm this way of thinking wouldn't have brought many good things, like french revolution and women rights (don't know how good it is lol joking). i'm hoping in the future thinking of equality will be "normal" and won't be an utopia as it is now, as it has been for universal suffrage and slavery and so on.

Some things go in the same direction as history and other things don't. It's not a wonder there is no more opposition on political arguments of the past.