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Re: horse ranged.
« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2013, 11:08:46 am »
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fight me for gold or forever be silent, templar merc scum!!
no offence but don´t do it rufio

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Re: horse ranged.
« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2013, 12:37:36 pm »
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u did this all while u were standing still? could try moving towards him to. ah well atleast cool that youre testing stuff.
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Re: horse ranged.
« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2013, 12:42:06 pm »
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My money is on strudog.
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Re: horse ranged.
« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2013, 12:55:26 pm »
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get a booky going panos, maybe it will be more profitable if i win, cant say no to that
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Re: horse ranged.
« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2013, 12:59:22 pm »
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I don't even like Rufio, but let's be real, he'd win, I bet 25k on him winning a first to five vs Strudog, you wanna do the bet Panos?
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: horse ranged.
« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2013, 01:02:46 pm »
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player generated content right here brah, mod alive  :P
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Re: horse ranged.
« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2013, 01:20:28 pm »
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You may find this as an excuse but im not seen as a great dueler (maybe because i use a polearm :D) but i will give it a shot.
How about making it STF 2h alts? same gear and all that.

Or do you need your lvl 35 2h?
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Re: horse ranged.
« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2013, 01:24:36 pm »
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The more ranged get nerfed, the more scrubs wants to nerf ranged, don't give these whiny ass bitches what they want.
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Re: horse ranged.
« Reply #38 on: May 29, 2013, 03:30:15 pm »
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ye lets bring out a special server, called urban assault, that will ballance game, good thinking there brah

Most of the NA1 maps are urban maps with lots of buildings and artificial structures to provide cover, gotta imagine most of the EU battle maps are the same.  I personally think the best teamwork happens on open plains/steppe maps.  If we played more of those maps, people might get used to fighting with teammates more often.

And I love Vandal's picture, it's so true.  People tend to suck it up more in NA it seems like, not as much whining about how other people are playing wrong.  People tend to try and adapt and change to what's going on in the battle, they don't usually come on the forums and pitch a bitch because of the way other people are choosing to play. 

I don't get why Rufio and strudog have beef, they both like to bitch and complain about ranged and horse ranged classes, you'd think they'd be best of buddies.
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Re: horse ranged.
« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2013, 04:16:08 pm »
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- High speed damage bonus is too big, it should be reduced. Right now full speed bonus gives you about twice the damage of standing HX, which is surely too much.

This, said it before. I played HX before they made the speed bonus of your own horse add to the damage and the damage was at a more bearable level back then.
I voted Gurnisson cause of his fucking bendy pike, I swear noone can roflcopter stab like he can.

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Re: horse ranged.
« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2013, 06:55:31 pm »
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I presume you only did this once each? The random factor in damage is like 10% and the random factor for armour soak and reduce is even more  random. Combined you can get as much as 40% deviation due to random factors with all else equal, as far as I know. Which means that doing these tests once, especially when it comes to 2 or 3 shotting, will not allow you to draw any useful conclusions.

Still I appreciate the test, if you are correct then the added damage from speed bonus is ridiculous and completely unrealistic, I think that could use a reduction. A horse moving does not influence the speed of a bolt all that much. Although maybe base damage should just be reduced so that doing full speed shots is the only way to get some real damage. Although completely unrealistic and dumb, it would add a layer of skill to the class and higher risk as well, as you need to move towards your target at high speed.

Either of these two changes seem fitting to me, with the first being more realistic, but the second one being more interesting.

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Re: horse ranged.
« Reply #41 on: May 29, 2013, 08:08:52 pm »
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Using +3 heavy gauntlets (+15body armor) and regular milanese plate (+59body armor) = 74body armor. HX shoots me from behind. I was running away from it. I have 18str and 6if which makes 65hp if i am not mistaken. And that single shot takes this much hp:

Bolt on my back and my hp and the hx reloading
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My STR and IF in case you don't believe me
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This is not fun at all.
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Re: horse ranged.
« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2013, 08:23:10 pm »
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Teeth - we repeated that test twice to the chest while standing (about 10 hits overal). Other tests were done once (just few hits to kill me), because we didn't have much time (strategus battle was comming).
Araxiel - that sounds more like you were hit by Arbalester, who you just didn't notice.

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Re: horse ranged.
« Reply #43 on: May 29, 2013, 08:55:29 pm »
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u did this all while u were standing still? could try moving towards him to. ah well atleast cool that youre testing stuff.

Geezus, it is plainly stated in the post and in your quote that both standing still and two different speeds of the horse were used in the test, then gave a fact based conclusion. If you want people to give a damn about your complaint, take the time to read the information posted by someone who took the time to test the factors involved instead of racing to the reply button after 2 words.
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Re: horse ranged.
« Reply #44 on: May 29, 2013, 09:07:54 pm »
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I don't even like Rufio, but let's be real, he'd win, I bet 25k on him winning a first to five vs Strudog, you wanna do the bet Panos?
I'll take that bet