[NEW] Commander Mode

[okiN]

Dont forget that the AI behavior is hard to "control"...
The cav is particularly bad to play because they have a hard time couching and if they are still mounted, against infantry, they will try to thrust lances without speed, in close quarters combat...

Best tactic for cavalry is to make them follow you, and you pass behind the enemy squad you want to attack: making the cavalry effectively bump the enemy.
When you have sufficiently "surrounded them" with bots, press charge, wait a few sec, and tell them to follow you again and do a bump charge again, or make them dismount and fight (because they are way better at foot most of the time).

Personally I just control them with move orders, it keeps them in formation. After each charge, once they start to split up or generally faff about too much, I regroup them with a move order, get them to where I want them to be, then order them to charge again. With cavalry this generally needs to be done more frequently.

[Haboe]

Archers are very weak due to crpg mechanics. Will need better bows and massive wpf to compensate.

If you spawn slightly later, you get no army

And make cav groups smaller (about 66-75%)

[Haboe]

Flagwin bug, losing team gets multi after losing the flag...

[Arthur_]

While their cavalry is nearly useless, and their range  r so bad compare to any sharpshooter. so u want to nerf the only thing nord have? xD

No royans, nord archers vs. sharpshooters are actually the same and since they are also good in meele nords are the leading faction, sarrinds for example got only cav and maybe archers, but infantry.. meh..

[Overdriven]

I found sharpshooters decimated the archers. Cav is definitely unbalanced though. I actually found Swadians the strongest though. That cav just ripped through everyone I fought with.

[Everkistus]

I used to decimate bot armies with mamelukes in native SP. I'd still say the sarranids have the strongest cav units.

[Overdriven]

I used to decimate bot armies with mamelukes in native SP. I'd still say the sarranids have the strongest cav units.

I'd say the same about swadian knights and I had a head on head battle with another guy, both of us straight charged our cav each other and his sarrinid cav were slaughtered by my men at arms. I still had most of my cav force left.

[Conquisitore]

Hey,
if i join one of the servers sometimes this error appears and also if the map changes:
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[Oberyn]

I doubt any devs even read this and most likely came to the inspiration for this on their own or from NW commander mode, but I'm still going to take credit for it.

If we're talking ground up remake, I say something like NW commander mode battles with bots. A system more like Warband singleplayer. Make physical presence on the map matter, allow other players to join your "army" or caravan or whatever, every player is a commander that control his own squad of troops. Different troop trees and equipment depending on location. Formations, orders and terrain matter so much more when it's bots fighting, this would turn Strat battles into more of a tactical rts than a battlemode with respawns, with players in the role of commanders. Gigantic armies in formation would be epic if only for the visual.
It would probably require many different servers and a ton of work, or only a few people would get to play battles everyday. And I'm not sure how many bots a server can handle before it starts to slow down, and lowend computers probably wouldn't be able to handle it. This is totally unworkable but meh, just throwing ideas out there.

[Kafein]

No. This is obviously a Total War ripoff.

[okiN]

I doubt any devs even read this and most likely came to the inspiration for this on their own or from NW commander mode, but I'm still going to take credit for it.

We were doing this in 2010 already.

[Ronin]

Actually, the best is vaegir cav :

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Two handed weapons are the best cav weapons for AI.

[okiN]

Yeah, in spite of their shitty horses Vaegir cav can actually make a mess. I was defending a hill against them with Sarranid infantry and they tore through my guys.

[Ronin]

And I was watching it.

The thing is, AI is very good when using two handed weapons on horseback. Sarranid mamlukes are an example of that (the one in native singleplayer).

[okiN]

And I was watching it.

Well, your screenshot shows what happened before, when the cavalry charged a bunch of unattended archers who were mindlessly walking up a hill to greet the enemy. At that point I was just watching in horror myself. But after that the cavalry came to my infantry, who as I said were defending a hilltop in an orderly fashion, and they did almost as well. So yeah, clearly pretty good. Of course it doesn't help that Sarranid infantry are rubbish.