Author Topic: Is calling a chinese person "chinaman" racist? (not trying to offend anyone)  (Read 7031 times)

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Offline Tibe

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I seriuslly hate this "Uh my god its racist, im offended" bullcrap that some minorities have. Grow balls and join the internet son, you are just making more bad blood and not really stepping up for anyone if you claim a simple word to be racist. Chinaman doesnt seem offending imo. This is why I somewhat dislike Pepe too. He sets people up, so that they use some random "offensive" word and then later tries to get em banned. I know its just trolling from his part, but its really not doing anyone a favor.

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I seriuslly hate this "Uh my god its racist, im offended" bullcrap that some minorities have. Grow balls and join the internet son, you are just making more bad blood and not really stepping up for anyone if you claim a simple word to be racist. Chinaman doesnt seem offending imo. This is why I somewhat dislike Pepe too. He sets people up, so that they use some random "offensive" word and then later tries to get em banned. I know its just trolling from his part, but its really not doing anyone a favor.

Nobody was legitimately offended by it...there was only one person who said it was racist and that person was just trolling the other guy. Everyone in this thread is just explaining/expressing their thoughts without spouting "bullcrap".

Lol Carac, you fret too much.

I (at least from what I saw) was the only one who was claiming that was racist, and I was just doing it to tease and piss you off
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I know. I just wanted to clarify my stance. The question of the thread was "Is calling a chinese person "chinaman" racist?"

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Re: Is calling a chinese person "chinaman" racist?
« Reply #33 on: May 11, 2013, 10:04:28 am »
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So because "paki" is racist, calling someone "kazakh" is too?

You can't use the same rule for everything, saying "chinaman" is DEFINITELY racist, don't try to compare it to other things.

How can that be racist ? They aren't black.

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It's probably only considered racist due to historical connotations. I find chinaman a perfectly descriptive term for a man from China. There is nothing offensive in the word itself. You'd probably be best off calling someone from China simply chinese, if you are in fact not trying to offend someone.

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How about these?:

-Turkoman
-Spaniard
-Swede

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so is it racist calling me a duckling?
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Orient  is not derogatory its just what we brits named the east...  its used in loads of products/companies hell even chinese take aways are called stuff like taste of the orient etc
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plz dont call me swede its racist plz so offensive :cry:

What about viking? But I doubt you'll take offense if someone calls you like that.

Barbarian? That might work.

It's pretty easy to offend someone by calling him names he dosen't like. You just need to have little knowledge of history. Offensive names are usually tied to some historical period or event.

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I'm an Englishman.

O crap I offended myself.

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Chinaman is a contentious English language term that denotes a Chinese man or person, or as a Chinese national, or, in some cases, an indiscriminate term for a person native to geographical East Asia or of perceived East Asian race. Although the term has no negative connotations in older dictionaries,[1][2] and the usage of such parallel compound terms (though Chineseman would technically be the precise parallel) as Englishman, Frenchman and Irishman[3] remain unobjectionable,[4] the term Chinaman is noted as offensive by modern dictionaries. Its derogatory connotations evolved from its use in pejorative contexts regarding the Chinese and other Asians. While usage of the term Chinaman is nowadays strongly discouraged by Asian American organizations,[5][6][7][8] the term has been used by English speakers of Chinese descent and others, without offensive intent,[5][8] and has also been used as a self-referential archetype by authors and artists of Asian descent.[9]

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Chinaman is a tricky one, since it doesnt sound offensive at all.
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Someone should name themselves americaman