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[Gnjus]

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Gnjus: evening Pancake
Panos: hey ho Boss
Gnjus: hows life ?
Panos: man can`t complain
Panos: what about u?
Gnjus: same thing here actually, got some extra work which means extra money so its all good :-D
Gnjus: what i wanted to ask you
Panos: that sounds good
Panos: shoot
Gnjus: are you familiar with server availability in crpg for some organized events ?
Gnjus: from what i see
Panos: well I and rogue had some fun times and he allows me to use his server
Panos: from time to time
Gnjus: whatever someone tries to organize is pretty much a fail due to the combination of high requirements and unavalibality
Gnjus: so i was thinking somewhere in the line of this:
Gnjus: 5 a side with 2 subtitutes, no restrictions whatsoever, no clans, no nations, no gear restriction, no class restriction, jus a chance to gather up to 5 friends that you regulary play with on eu1 or eu2 or whatever, no matter what clans they're in.....would pretty much stack all the active people who usually play in smaller groups or hang on TS like that
Gnjus: they say cRPG is about freedom
Gnjus: of choice
Gnjus: and all that crap
Gnjus: you think it might work ?
Gnjus: if someone wants to field 5 cav let them, 5 archers, 5 shielders or some combination why not ? everything has a counter
Gnjus: at least they wouldnt have reason to cry in the end
Gnjus: you played what you wanted and you lost
Gnjus: or won
Gnjus: depending :-D
Panos: that sounds good
Panos: but a lot of work
Panos: and a lot of people will complain
Panos: about no restrictions
Gnjus: complain about what ? if they cant see the reasoning for that they dont need to apply
Gnjus: its quite simple when you think about it
Gnjus: its down to this: are they able to get away from classical way of thinking and enjoy this mod for a change or not ?
Gnjus: would be interesting to spectate as well because you wouldnt know what kind of teams anyone would field, sign up would be by PM to those organizing and refereeing
Panos: that sounds nice
Gnjus: judging by the state of the mod thats about the only thing that could work
Panos: but we both know the c-rpg community, people will always find something to whine for
Gnjus: i think its not a bad idea, you mind if i post this conversation on the forum so i dont have to write it all over and explain what im thinking about ? maybe someone can build upon this with some great suggestions ?
Gnjus: for example
Gnjus: if you have clans
Gnjus: or nations
Gnjus: its quite limitating
Gnjus: but free for all would work superbly
Gnjus: i know Byzantium have tons of members but inside their clan its pretty much always the same guys in same groups in sub channels on TS
Gnjus: so they could actually organize themselves the way they like
Gnjus: without having to think about 10 or 12 or 15 men roster for some big tourney
Gnjus: all other clans as well
Gnjus: only actives would sign up
Gnjus: much easier to have 5 guys then 10 or 12
Gnjus: and much easier with no thinking about clan, nation or whatever
Gnjus: it might just work if presented in the right way and if there were some rewards etc
Gnjus: and if the timing was good
Panos: I`m in for it
Panos: you should also talk to tueten
Gnjus: yes ofc, first i was thinking about pasting this on the forum to see what others feel about it so we dont waste our time if there is no interest

[Teeth]

Yes, this could be fun. Just give the finger to all the whiny bitches, it is balanced because everyone is allowed to do everything.

5 throwing lance hoplites counter everything though.

[Gnjus]

Yes, this could be fun. Just give the finger to all the whiny bitches, it is balanced because everyone is allowed to do everything.

5 throwing lance hoplites counter everything though.

Well that's the magic of it: you can sign up with whatever you like and field whatever you feel like. At the end of the day - you've had it your way no matter the outcome. Interesting not only for those who participate but also for those who spectate cause majority wouldn't know what's about to happen (as sign-ups would be made via PM's to 4-5 guys overseeing the whole thing and checks could be easily made, all you need is to make sure its the same people who signed, nothing else). 

[Chris_the_Animal]

i like the idea of 5 HA's on a plain map 

but also therefor is a counter.

maybe it would be better when both teams would know what classes the other team will play with?

[Torben]

its a wall allright.

[IR_Kuoin]

5 siege engineers on one team.


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[Gnjus]

maybe it would be better when both teams would know what classes the other team will play with?

It would kill what little magic there is left in trying to organize such an event. 
I mean the initial bracket would be made by organizers in secret, you would sign your team with a certain name for it so later everyone would see the bracket once the first knock-out is done. I recon things would get clear very fast. Not much space for "breaking the rules" as there aren't many and what use would those 4-5 guys have of ruining the whole thing ?


Map for this would need to be specially made, some kind of medium sized arena (so cav can move freely) but not too large so we don't have 2 mins of running before you even see your opponents), with only a few obstacles in it so there is no campfest, just some basic natural cover. You want to field 5 HA's ? Sure why not ? Just don't cry if you can't kill anything. Same as the other team shouldn't cry about inability to take those 5 HA's down. No restrictions means that for example: best out of 7 rounds (quite a good format so its short & efficient) leaves enough time for your team to change their options after the initial round (grab different gear if they are able to equip it, etc) to adjust to the situation. So many possible scenarios that you couldn't list them all right now. 

[Chris_the_Animal]

there will be alot of fun and alot of rage 

[Gnjus]

I'll try to give an example: you gather your friends and make a team. You give your team a name (lets call it Imbeciles for the purpose of this explanation) that only you guys know and sign-up via PM. Organizers make a bracket. Shortly before the start of the event they announce it in a knock-out form ofc:


Imbeciles
vs
Morons

Jerks
vs
Dickheads

SWAGs
vs
my old friends

etc, etc.

You know you're the Imbeciles but you don't know who the others are. None knows until the first match they show up. First rounds are complete surprises and everything after that is adjusting or just being stubborn and remaining at your initial choices. Pure knock-out during one weekend, if there is a lot of teams then its split in two: elimination rounds on Saturday and closing rounds on Sunday. If there is enough teams to do it in one day (2-3 hours) then its Sunday afternoon or evening. 

[crazybob]

Restrictions are boring.
Please go ahead and make this happen

[Cyber]

no ranged, 1 crushthrough and STF only please.

[Gnjus]

Ancient aliens is awesome though, I learned a lot from that show.

no ranged, 1 crushthrough and STF only please.

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This topic might be better in General Discussion tho, I don't think many people follow this section of forum.

[Ronin]

This was the event I was waiting for a long time.

[Gnjus]

This was the event I was waiting for a long time.

Well technically speaking it's not here yet. This is just initial idea. 

Only 20 votes so far, still not enough to call it a proper interest in such event.

[Molly]

You could ask Tuete to give you a hand and his map from his first tournament. Size was ideal, I think.