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If you had to choose one, which would it be?

Iron Flesh
Weapon Mastery

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A Great Debate: IF vs. WM -- What's your pick?
« on: April 26, 2013, 07:41:31 pm »
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As the Title suggests-- Iron Flesh versus Weapon Mastery.
Which do you choose?


Also, this is in regards to if you are a dedicated class, not a hybrid. Obviously if you're a hybrid, the answer would be Weapon Mastery. But I want to know from a Dedicated Class standpoint, which do you prefer? IF or WM? GET YOUR VOTES IN!
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Re: A Great Debate: IF vs. WM -- What's your pick?
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2013, 07:42:05 pm »
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is this even a question

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Re: A Great Debate: IF vs. WM -- What's your pick?
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2013, 07:42:34 pm »
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Yes Vibe, it is, and I feel that the answer is going to vary between US and EU somewhat--so that's why I asked.
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Re: A Great Debate: IF vs. WM -- What's your pick?
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2013, 07:43:19 pm »
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Re: A Great Debate: IF vs. WM -- What's your pick?
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2013, 07:44:07 pm »
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Always been a fan of Weapon master.  Speed has always been first to me.  The best part is, I don't even spam

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Re: A Great Debate: IF vs. WM -- What's your pick?
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2013, 07:46:21 pm »
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I kind of want to know the formula for Ironflesh and Weapon Mastery. I think I've always undervalued WM a little bit, primarily because I just do one weapon proficiency, is it worth it to raise it from 110 to 130ish? and if so, why?
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Re: A Great Debate: IF vs. WM -- What's your pick?
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2013, 07:46:49 pm »
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I'm hybrid, but if I was pure melee I'd still take WM over IF.  I prefer offensive skills versus defensive.

Pretty sure I'm in the minority though, I think most NA pure melee prefer IF over WM (and I think EU may lean more towards WM than IF, but still thinking the majority would take IF over WM, just not as much consensus)
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Re: A Great Debate: IF vs. WM -- What's your pick?
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2013, 07:47:34 pm »
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I prefer to have 5-6 WM as a dedicated melee player. Fuck ironflesh gayness.
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Re: A Great Debate: IF vs. WM -- What's your pick?
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2013, 07:49:00 pm »
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I'm hybrid, but if I was pure melee I'd still take WM over IF.  I prefer offensive skills versus defensive.

I always considered myself a defensive person.  I figured that my defensive playstyle makes up for the lack of ironflesh so I put some into offense in case I need to be aggressive.  (Which I usually fail at)

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Re: A Great Debate: IF vs. WM -- What's your pick?
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2013, 07:50:40 pm »
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Almost on every build im finishing WM to its biggest...I want to make faster stabs with my lawlpike or aim better with my xbow. IF is better for people with unloomed stuff maybe...

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Re: A Great Debate: IF vs. WM -- What's your pick?
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2013, 07:52:18 pm »
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I always choose WM over IF, it just feels like it was meant to be.

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Re: A Great Debate: IF vs. WM -- What's your pick?
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2013, 07:53:26 pm »
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I don't even know why this is a question.

Max out your IF in relation to your str and max out your WM in relation to your AGI.  They are both very important.

Power Strike has become an after thought. 

If you suck at blocking get more IF.  If you are a great blocker I would probably still have higher IF then WM but not by much.  I found the best build to be a 21/18 build w/ 7 PS IF and 6 WM ATHLETICS.

High damage is derived greatly from wep speed and footwork. 

I really dont even know why this is a question to be honest...  I would understand more IF VS PS or WM VS ATHLETICS
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Re: A Great Debate: IF vs. WM -- What's your pick?
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2013, 07:56:14 pm »
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I don't even know why this is a question.

Max out your IF in relation to your str and max out your WM in relation to your AGI.  They are both very important.

Power Strike has become an after thought. 

If you suck at blocking get more IF.  If you are a great blocker I would probably still have higher IF then WM but not by much.  I found the best build to be a 21/18 build w/ 7 PS IF and 6 WM ATHLETICS.

High damage is derived greatly from wep speed and footwork. 

I really dont even know why this is a question to be honest...  I would understand more IF VS PS or WM VS ATHLETICS

The reason it is a question is for new players and players who aren't sure. Also, in case you didn't read--The poll asks "If you had to choose one" meaning if you were min/maxing a build, say 21/21, which would you strive for first? IF or WM? It's a valid question, and I think we need to look beyond our personal bias of the question and realize that solid answers can help direct new players in to better understanding the choices of the skill leveling.
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Re: A Great Debate: IF vs. WM -- What's your pick?
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2013, 07:57:54 pm »
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IF would probably be 1 higher then WM in the end build if thats the case.
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Re: A Great Debate: IF vs. WM -- What's your pick?
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2013, 07:58:05 pm »
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Wow, I'm actually surprised there are so many fans of WM.  Leveling a shielder with 21 strength no ironflesh (56 hp) I get 2 hit pretty much all the time.  30 armor, 40 armor, 50 armor it doesn't really matter.

Meanwhile with my 70 hp 52 body armor main 2 hits are very rare, usually it's 3 or 4.

I'm all about the ironflesh, and I don't see that changing unless the base wpp you get changes.
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