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Offline La Makina

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Rebalance the 1H left swing
« on: April 07, 2013, 03:58:49 pm »
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Re: Rebalance the 1H left swing
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2013, 04:00:26 pm »
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nerf 1h!!111 they spam me !1
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Re: Rebalance the 1H left swing
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2013, 04:02:26 pm »
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It is easy to dodge bellow, got shit reach, if you move into the attack enough it'll just glance. The rightswing is a lot better.
Also I can hiltslash with an mw katana 0wpf and 4ps faster than I can hit with my espadas leftswing without glancing.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2013, 04:05:42 pm by Zlisch_The_Butcher »
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: Rebalance the 1H left swing
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2013, 04:20:47 pm »
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If you think it is overused, you can use right block against one handers automatically. People do that to me all the time and they are mostly succesful at blocking me.
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Re: Rebalance the 1H left swing
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2013, 07:05:48 pm »
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Pikes abuse the stab, they overuse it! Nerf and force them to use swings.
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Re: Rebalance the 1H left swing
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2013, 07:17:02 pm »
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Hi guys!

One-handers are overusing the left swing. I just see it all the time, everywhere. There is an obvious unbalance compared to other attacks.

It is the fastest swing,
It touches almost always the head,
It hits full blow from the very start (no progressing power with the execution of the slash see for thrusts),
The time for arming is almost nil as opposed to other attacks.

My suggestion: make the animation when arming the left swing slightly a bit slower (feel free to discuss realism) and introduce a damage reduction at the beginning of the swing.

PS: yes my main is 2H but my alt is 1H/thrower and I do overuse the left swing.

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Re: Rebalance the 1H left swing
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2013, 10:02:19 pm »
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lol  :D OK I am not complaining and I do know how to block left swings.

I also speak as 1H user. I feel the 1H left swing is snappy. It is too easy to face hug and spam with it. There is something not consistent in particular when I compare with left swings from 2H or polearms.

I discussed with a friend who plays the mod too and he agrees. So I share my impression. You might not agree, fair enough.

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Re: Rebalance the 1H left swing
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2013, 10:11:51 pm »
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You just need to learn how to properly use footwork. Then right swing, overheads and stabs will work great. The right swing got excellent reach, and alot of people expect you to left swing.
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Re: Rebalance the 1H left swing
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2013, 10:20:41 pm »
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As a 2h ninja I abuse enemy's 1h-leftswing a lot when I fight against them, because they often rely on it too much.
So as a 2h ninja I think 1h-leftswing is fine.

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Re: Rebalance the 1H left swing
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2013, 01:39:24 am »
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Meh, if Im fighting a 1h, and i cant see their next attack, ill throw a block to left swing 70% or an ovhd the reast of the time.

I think it's fine tbh. 1h don't need anymore weaknesses, the left swing makes up for shitty right swing and stabs

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Re: Rebalance the 1H left swing
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2013, 11:41:28 am »
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The overused leftswing creates alot of confusion in an opponent when he suddenly face a guy who uses alot of other attacks, like overheads and stabs. I love it, alot of people are so unused to anyhing but left and rightswings.
So please leave it the way it is.

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Re: Rebalance the 1H left swing
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2013, 01:11:33 pm »
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Based on the exact same argument, all polearm attacks should be nerfed except the overhead. They all connect and inflict full damage instantly.

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Re: Rebalance the 1H left swing
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2013, 05:36:01 pm »
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The overused leftswing creates alot of confusion in an opponent when he suddenly face a guy who uses alot of other attacks, like overheads and stabs. I love it, alot of people are so unused to anyhing but left and rightswings.
So please leave it the way it is.

This. If you do an overhead or stab you have a high chance that it wont be blocked. When I fight a 1h I can hold right block which then functions as auto-block. I like it.

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Re: Rebalance the 1H left swing
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2013, 06:55:32 pm »
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2h hiltslash spam is still worse than 1h left swing

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Re: Rebalance the 1H left swing
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2013, 07:08:04 pm »
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2h left AND right swing are equal or better than 1h left swing:

-All three hit for full damage early in the animation
-2h gets a reach bonus on both sideswings, 1h left swing doesn't
-The "hits the head" feature of 1h left swing is a double-edge sword, because all a 2h user has to do is ready an attack, and their animation causes them to crouch under the incoming left swing. You can't crouch under a 2h sideswing.

So it's not that 1h left swing is so amazing, it's that 1h right swing and thrust are so crap that left swing is often the only option. I prefer to overhead, but that's risky if your opponent is good at dodging.