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Re: BF4
« Reply #90 on: November 08, 2013, 09:37:04 pm »
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I found BF3 fine from that pov. But then the last BF game I played was BF2 and you had to aim behind people to hit them in that one  :)

Both in BF3 and PS2 you can die after getting behind cover because the enemy is shooting at and registering hits on their laggy local version of you, which is not yet in cover. In other words, hit detection happens client-side, which is a horrible thing.

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« Reply #91 on: November 08, 2013, 10:45:33 pm »
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That's been a problem since 1942. Don't think I notice it anymore :P

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Re: BF4
« Reply #92 on: November 09, 2013, 01:30:56 pm »
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Re: BF4
« Reply #93 on: November 10, 2013, 06:42:02 am »
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They did this sort of stuff before and pro players on gamepad can't even handle average players on mouse and keyboard. Don't know if autoaim was enabled or not. It only makes sense and doesn't prove anything really, FPS on console and PC is a totally different beast.

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Re: BF4
« Reply #94 on: November 10, 2013, 06:21:36 pm »
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That's only logical as there are few COD PC players to start with. The scene is simply smaller. But I would like to see what would happen if a mixed competition was organised.


They did this sort of stuff before and pro players on gamepad can't even handle average players on mouse and keyboard. Don't know if autoaim was enabled or not. It only makes sense and doesn't prove anything really, FPS on console and PC is a totally different beast.

There was an FPS game called shadowrun or someshit where it had PC and console players.. however the game was designed to have certain limitations for each side to make it more "balanced" between the systems so essentially they were playing two different versions (consoles had sticky aim/aim assist, PC had movement penalties, higher recoil, etc) so the results were completely fucked--in fact the console players dominated at first due to the PC version being nerfed to shit.

It's more about the form factor between controller and mouse/keyboard as opposed to straight up "herpderp console v PC." It's just a fact that you don't have as much per-pixel control with a single thumb and a joystick then you do with your entire hand and a mouse. Most PC games out there are compatible with controllers anyway, use one in any FPS without sticky aim and you'll get wrecked.

IMO competitive, skill-based FPS died with DoD 1.3 and CS 1.6 when CAL dropped. After that, all the old Quake-style of FPS were completely replaced with arcade clusterfuck shooters. Don't get me wrong, CoD/BF are still fun for what they are but the mechanics do not lend themselves at all to pure, skill-based play.
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Re: BF4
« Reply #95 on: November 10, 2013, 09:29:43 pm »
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Re: BF4
« Reply #96 on: November 11, 2013, 11:54:26 pm »
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4 hour long campaign with a shitty ending and three times as linear as BF3

Why was I expecting more in the first place? This seems to be the bog standerd route of every FPS these days
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Re: BF4
« Reply #97 on: November 12, 2013, 12:15:51 am »
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BF SP is shit, why would you even bother.
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Re: BF4
« Reply #98 on: November 12, 2013, 12:55:43 am »
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Because I like stories and enjoy single player campaigns?

And I feel that this is a poor excuse for one
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Re: BF4
« Reply #99 on: November 12, 2013, 03:09:08 am »
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BF SP is shit, why would you even bother.

BF2 story never left the toilet bowl.
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Re: BF4
« Reply #100 on: November 12, 2013, 01:18:29 pm »
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Well about BF2 they did argue that the USMC fighting wars absolutely everywhere and against everybody was for "storyline reasons"

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Re: BF4
« Reply #101 on: November 12, 2013, 01:25:14 pm »
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Because I like stories and enjoy single player campaigns?

And I feel that this is a poor excuse for one

If you like story and single player campaigns don't pick up an MMS.
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Re: BF4
« Reply #102 on: November 12, 2013, 02:51:15 pm »
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If you like story and single player campaigns don't pick up an MMS.

No, because I like MP a lot too, I just think that since I payed for it, I might as well try it
I can enjoy both, you know.
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Re: BF4
« Reply #103 on: November 15, 2013, 07:48:06 pm »
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Re: BF4
« Reply #104 on: November 19, 2013, 01:24:04 pm »
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