What's with all the stake hate?

[Penitent]

I actually don't see the problem here. I'm not sure if you were trying to imply that there was, though.

I was showing you how people can be funneled, and how even siege shields can be useful for things other than block arrow fire.  You seemed to disbelieve both of these.


Now, the problem:
All these things can be done with siege shields...which barely block off an area as wide as a player, take up 2 slots, and die in 2 hits. 

Stakes take up a very large area in comparison, take up 1 slot, kill cav, and block arrows.  They are OP.  That is the essence of the problem, you see.

I am all for giving it a little while and seeing how players use them before calling for a huge nerf or something...but at face value it seems they should take up 2 slots I'd say.

[LordRichrich]

They're limited to 4 per round.
I tooks 3 1 round, some other people on the other team took some. When only 2 of mine went up, I asked. Blah blah blah, we found it's limited to four. So I don't think they're too bad tbh

[Aiyasha]

I was showing you how people can be funneled, and how even siege shields can be useful for things other than block arrow fire.  You seemed to disbelieve both of these.


Now, the problem:
All these things can be done with siege shields...which barely block off an area as wide as a player, take up 2 slots, and die in 2 hits. 

Stakes take up a very large area in comparison, take up 1 slot, kill cav, and block arrows.  They are OP.  That is the essence of the problem, you see.

I am all for giving it a little while and seeing how players use them before calling for a huge nerf or something...but at face value it seems they should take up 2 slots I'd say.

Yes, I see now HOW they can be funneled, but I don't see how it's a problem. What this does say to me is that siege shields should be one slot instead of two rather than the other way around.

[CrazyCracka420]

Keep it up Aiyasha and you will receive your first infamy

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[Kafein]

If not said yet, stakes should have a super long time to get set up. Maybe even through cs construction.

[SirCymro_Crusader]

The Stakes are High here

[Aiyasha]

Keep it up Aiyasha and you will receive your first infamy

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I know arguing against anything that's not archer nerfs is frowned upon but I really think this is ridiculous. They haven't even been out a day yet and people are throwing a fit and crying.

[Penitent]

I am actually all for buffing siege shields or making them 1 slot.  I seem to be the only one that uses them.   I'd love to take 2!

[CrazyCracka420]

I'm not throwing a fit or crying, and I haven't even played with them yet...I just think 1 slot is not enough, and 2 slots is the way to go.

Having only 4 on a map at once seems kind of low to me though...

Also, as a non-archer, I pretty much always defend them (and any other class) that gets nerfed because people are too stupid/stubborn to change their tactics/adapt to the battlefield.

I think they are too large for only 1 slot, and most dedicated melee (who aren't hybrids) such as 1h/shield, 2h or polearm, have 2 extra slots on them.

Maybe make a smaller version that is only 1 slot as well?  Maybe make a 1 slot siege shield as well (aka a deployable pavise shield)?

[Kafein]

I know arguing against anything that's not archer nerfs is frowned upon but I really think this is ridiculous. They haven't even been out a day yet and people are throwing a fit and crying.

It's not like that is a reason not to say anything. I'm sure you can think of something ridiculous enough to be criticized day one yourself. That you don't think stakes are worthy of that or not is opinion.

[Aiyasha]

and I haven't even played with them yet...

Then what are you doing in this thread?

[CrazyCracka420]

Then what are you doing in this thread?

Baby, I'm a butta yo bread

[Overdriven]

I don't even need to have a game with them and can see they should be two slots. Even with a limit of 4 per round. It should require at least some dedication to take the stakes. Heck I'd go so far as to suggest 3 slots but then pretty much no one would take them.

They haven't even been out a day yet and people are throwing a fit and crying.

Clearly haven't been on the forums for a bunch of nerfs if you think people are throwing a fit and crying now.

[Aiyasha]

I don't even need to have a game with them and can see they should be two slots. Even with a limit of 4 per round. It should require at least some dedication to take the stakes. Heck I'd go so far as to suggest 3 slots but then pretty much no one would take them.

Then let's hope you never land a position that deals with balance. That you've decided how broken an item is that you've never had a game with says a lot.

[Overdriven]

Then let's hope you never land a position that deals with balance. That you've decided how broken an item is that you've never had a game with them says a lot.

 

I've played this game enough to know an obvious balance issue when I see one. If anything that means I should be on the balance team 

Besides I never said the item was broken. Though insta-killing horses before they've been fully deployed seems extreme. It's simply a matter of slots.