Upkeep Test for chad with evidence, mathematic : that is not an opinion !

[Vicious666]

I have 21k worth of gear and I'm still able to make profit. No idea what I'm doing right and everyone is doing wrong.

nothing

thats the point


is merely lucky.




on a calculation based on a week  (7 day) of play,  at  worst possible condition   50x g x round always, you should keep 25k of equip.      but no chance to buy anything.        and may you have day where you naked and cant repair and day when you barely handle it.

the fact is, is random, is not fun, not based on skill at all,       only on autobalance + upkeep    randomness

[Ganon]

21k is affordable, with a 1x multiplier you can afford 25k worth of gear, now calculating the average multiplier is a little more tricky, i'll go by intuition and say it's 1.5 (don't ask me why, if you want to know the correct value go ahead and calculate it), so by playing normally you should be able to afford 37k worth of gear on average. You cannot possibly afford better unless you kill the half the opposing team all by yourself every round, which only a handful of players are able to do and only when autobalance fails. edit: obviously this is with 0 gold added to your account in the long run, if you want to buy better items you have to fight naked.

[Garrus]

I'm going upward with my light-medium gear (~20k),
and sometimes I can ride my destrier in full plate few rounds in a row. (~85k)
absolutely okay, have to play a bit smarter

EDIT: in my 20k gear I have a tier1 sword, what else need to defend myself ?

[Ishar]

EDIT: in my 20k gear I have a tier1 sword, what else need to defend myself ?

Skill.

[Vicious666]

Skill.

only skill you have mister ishar is troll skill you have 17 point   can you wonder why?

[Garrus]

Skill.

Skill is only for children and women and child-women !

[Vicious666]

What is this supposed to be?

Tell me, what is the average gold you can upkeep with 0.201, assuming you have a multiplicator of 1 all the time? No examples, mathematics. I know the value, do you?

(keep it short)

assuming  x1 all time, 250g round so 5 mins       max is 25k  or 37 k (as say ganon)

point is    this prospective is   an average so you can have days where you cant afford to repair, and days where you have extra money or barely gaining it/manteining your equip.     

we are playng on the edge of a razor btw.   

[Garrus]

Your calculations considers the law of large numbers ?

[ViiKOLD]

It's somewhat funny to see famous cav players running in some fur armor on palfeys  I so get used to their old look, now you can see their "real" faces.

I like upkeep system but need to agree with Vicious on a matter that too much "luck" is involved into items degradation.
Played about 12 rounds in cheap gear as hobo cav and paid like 5 times, for my black hood - 9 gold  Accumulated some money and decided to use my "normal" gear, next round I'm getting teamswitched, our team is getting owned and I'm paying for repear of destrier and brigandin.... Sooo, how can I raise my luck? Go to church? Become buddist?

I'm not whining, it's fun in its own way, just would be nicer if system would be more predictable in terms of risk & gain. Higher the risk - more you can gain or loose.

[Ganon]

Your calculations considers the law of large numbers ?

His english might be bad but i read his post as considering that law, some days you lose gold, others you gain, if you have 25-37k worth of equip you should be even given a large enough number of games.

[Vicious666]

You calculated in the law of large numbers ?

that based on 1k rounds


but is statistics,     you can do more or less, if you repeat same test  in 1k results.
is like throwing dice.     1000 times.                         sometimes you can do higher sometimes lower.    fact is that if go low, you have days where you not make money only lose it, so cant repair armor, and day where  you gain. or barely keep it, but due   to the random nature of this things. is not playable -.- so maximum sustain  based on looooong  play is 25k.     THEORICAL  37k

[Garrus]

that based on 1k rounds


but is statistics,     you can do more or less, if you repeat same test  in 1k results.
is like throwing dice.     1000 times.                         sometimes you can do higher sometimes lower.    fact is that if go low, you have days where you not make money only lose it, so cant repair armor, and day where  you gain. or barely keep it, but due   to the random nature of this things. is not playable -.- so maximum sustain  based on looooong  play is 25k.     THEORICAL  37k

considering the law of large numbers, you say that gold ammount is going down over time ? Or going up ? I understand you as up.

EDIT: there is no real place to theoriciticiticitiing. if you have calculated 37k, then it must be 37k, or ask chadz what is the recommended gear value.

[Vicious666]

up and down. to that number

so should remain around such numbers problem is

you can have day where you have 15k, and day where you have 30

so if you use a 20-25k equip you can have day where you are not able to upkeep it until you got a lucky strike of wins





to say it more easy you cant base your gameplay on such variable up and down on an equip worth 25k

[Garrus]

up and down. to that number
so should remain around such numbers problem is
you can have day where you have 15k, and day where you have 30
so if you use a 20-25k equip you can have day where you are not able to upkeep it until you got a lucky strike of wins
to say it more easy you cant base your gameplay on such variable up and down on an equip worth 25k

when you get that 'lucky strike of wins', then you have the money for the incoming bad luck, thats the point.
I will watch for what you speaking about, and I will report here if I find anomalies, of course.
EDIT: btw, considering that 4% decay probability per item, I have no fear.

[bruce]

I have circa 25k of equipment and I'm slowly gaining money.