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Re: so are shielders the strongest class now or what?
« Reply #90 on: March 07, 2013, 01:04:54 am »
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You basically rq'd 1h no shield, just saying.
What? I leveled a 1h no shield to almost level 33, forgive me for wanting to play something different. Sure, 1h no shield is not the strongest class in battle, which is by far my favourite game mode, but you can't seriously expect or want it to be. I got tired of playing a class that was hard to play in my preferred game mode and using my teamplay focused style.

Besides, I am only saying that 1h animations are awesome and that 1h no shield does actually have an advantage mechanic wise compared to 1h/shield and 2h. I am not saying the class is OP, only that it isn't notably UP. No need for the ad hominem.

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Re: so are shielders the strongest class now or what?
« Reply #91 on: March 07, 2013, 01:06:40 am »
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Right swing hater here. I would overhead any day of the week before right swing. It's way too slow. 1h Overhead is secretly one of the best.

True dat, right swing is so slow, and all your opponent has to do is strafe to your right to make it glance. Ever since someone (you?) recommended steering overheads with strafes rather than turns, it's been my favorite attack. I can't wait until NA servers get the turn rate change, because overhead will be even better.

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Re: so are shielders the strongest class now or what?
« Reply #92 on: March 07, 2013, 01:06:46 am »
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One Handed Right Swing is good for battles, but in a duel even with a feint it telegraphs itself too much and allows an uncomfortably long amount of time for the opponent to block it. It is rather lovely though for opportunistic attacks in battle.
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Re: so are shielders the strongest class now or what?
« Reply #93 on: March 07, 2013, 01:11:08 am »
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One Handed Right Swing is good for battles, but in a duel even with a feint it telegraphs itself too much and allows an uncomfortably long amount of time for the opponent to block it. It is rather lovely though for opportunistic attacks in battle.

Really? because I think its most useful in duels.

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Re: so are shielders the strongest class now or what?
« Reply #94 on: March 07, 2013, 01:12:46 am »
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Really? because I think its most useful in duels.
I guess to each their own, I just either prefer feinting between the left/overheads and ending up with either/or, or going for a right swing then changing into a stab, every time I've feinted into a right swing it never seems to work for me unless I let them fall into a rhythm and they are as bad as me  :lol:


EDIT: I mean, every time I've ever dueled a one hander, I've been able to block their right swings easier then any of the other swings and so-rarely die from such a swing, but maybe that is just dumb luck or me just subconsciously liking blocking in that direction more). I'm not saying it is a bad attack direction, just seems a bit harder to feint out with it when compared to other options, the reach is beautiful though.
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Re: so are shielders the strongest class now or what?
« Reply #95 on: March 07, 2013, 01:13:03 am »
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What? I leveled a 1h no shield to almost level 33, forgive me for wanting to play something different. Sure, 1h no shield is not the strongest class in battle, which is by far my favourite game mode, but you can't seriously expect or want it to be. I got tired of playing a class that was hard to play in my preferred game mode and using my teamplay focused style.

Besides, I am only saying that 1h animations are awesome and that 1h no shield does actually have an advantage mechanic wise compared to 1h/shield and 2h. I am not saying the class is OP, only that it isn't notably UP. No need for the ad hominem.
Yeah, sorry, now that I'm thinking of it I'm pretty sure it's Bjord I'm thinking of. Sorry, but tbh you guys are similar in a lot of ways.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: so are shielders the strongest class now or what?
« Reply #96 on: March 07, 2013, 01:16:11 am »
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I really like the right swing in duel.

With a fast (101+ speed) thrustable one-hander, you can face your left side towards a player, oscillate between thrusts and right swings a couple times (which just looks like you are wiggling a thrust), and then bring your right swing in hard for full damage and max speed bonus. It's not nearly as good as the equivalent 2h feint (and is probably worse than the thrust-left-thrust and overhead-left-overhead feints), but it seems to catch people off guard occasionally.

Feints aside, with decent ath or a long 1h the right swing makes for a powerful range-game option against players who underestimate its reach.

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Re: so are shielders the strongest class now or what?
« Reply #97 on: March 07, 2013, 01:17:15 am »
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I guess to each their own, I just either prefer feinting between the left/overheads and ending up with either/or, or going for a right swing then changing into a stab, every time I've feinted into a right swing it never seems to work for me unless I let them fall into a rhythm and they are as bad as me  :lol:

I use it mostly to be able to play the range game against 2h/poles. That being said, I am not the best at dueling with one handers, so there is that.

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Re: so are shielders the strongest class now or what?
« Reply #98 on: March 07, 2013, 01:19:32 am »
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Yeah, sorry, now that I'm thinking of it I'm pretty sure it's Bjord I'm thinking of. Sorry, but tbh you guys are similar in a lot of ways.

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Re: so are shielders the strongest class now or what?
« Reply #99 on: March 07, 2013, 01:25:31 am »
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If we think about 1h or maybe even 2h cavalry, we find the most op class today. Haters gonna hate for me saying that but it is what it is. Damage reduction to those weapons on horseback would do the trick.
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Re: so are shielders the strongest class now or what?
« Reply #100 on: March 07, 2013, 01:28:32 am »
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If we think about 1h or maybe even 2h cavalry, we find the most op class today. Haters gonna hate for me saying that but it is what it is. Damage reduction to those weapons on horseback would do the trick.

remove horses from the game. problem solved.

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Re: so are shielders the strongest class now or what?
« Reply #101 on: March 07, 2013, 01:31:02 am »
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Yeah, sorry, now that I'm thinking of it I'm pretty sure it's Bjord I'm thinking of. Sorry, but tbh you guys are similar in a lot of ways.
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Re: so are shielders the strongest class now or what?
« Reply #102 on: March 07, 2013, 01:33:27 am »
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Was that a too obvious try at pissing someone off or weren't you a merc and therefore you didn't feel like taking it seriously?
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: so are shielders the strongest class now or what?
« Reply #103 on: March 07, 2013, 01:33:59 am »
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If we think about 1h or maybe even 2h cavalry, we find the most op class today. Haters gonna hate for me saying that but it is what it is. Damage reduction to those weapons on horseback would do the trick.

2h cav op!!
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Re: so are shielders the strongest class now or what?
« Reply #104 on: March 07, 2013, 01:39:05 am »
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I think right swing is good, but definitely situational. I use all my swings quite a bit, including right swing. I find myself regretting using right swing all the time, while getting more utility out of the others. That is why I 'hate' the right swing.