Locking down your own fief to prevent an attack

[Matey]

Ho hum. Still waiting on some official word from devs on this. Trying to ignore it till it goes away is just no good; even if no punishments are handed out as the incident is no longer recent, it would be nice to at the very least update or reiterate the rules and let everyone know and be forewarned in regards to what any future incidents of this nature can expect in terms of reprisals if any. The only message that the community is getting so far is that the rules are not sincere and can be ignored freely.

[DUKE DICKBUTT]

Ho hum. Still waiting on some official word from devs on this. Trying to ignore it till it goes away is just no good; even if no punishments are handed out as the incident is no longer recent, it would be nice to at the very least update or reiterate the rules and let everyone know and be forewarned in regards to what any future incidents of this nature can expect in terms of reprisals if any. The only message that the community is getting so far is that the rules are not sincere and can be ignored freely.

Just like no siege equipment on the flags.  Next everyone will be able to skyladder to their hearts content.  Then what?

[GiuseppeBlackRose]

(devs dont give a shit about strat)

[CrazyCracka420]

One thing I'm not sure of (in regards to game mechanics)

Say for instance, smoothrich was in his city while FCC was sending wave after wave to attack, if they attacked immediately after a battle was over, would he still be allowed to transfer stuff out of his city??  Or would he just basically have to click faster to get the gear out, before the next wave attacked?  Because that's a pretty shitty mechanic if that's how it works, you can easily get overwhelmed with gear if you aren't quicker on your clicks in strat.

[sdfjkln]

One thing I'm not sure of (in regards to game mechanics)

Say for instance, smoothrich was in his city while FCC was sending wave after wave to attack, if they attacked immediately after a battle was over, would he still be allowed to transfer stuff out of his city??  Or would he just basically have to click faster to get the gear out, before the next wave attacked?  Because that's a pretty shitty mechanic if that's how it works, you can easily get overwhelmed with gear if you aren't quicker on your clicks in strat.

No need to speculate, Smoothrich was item bombed, most unfun sieges ever after the first one. We spent a 20 minutes of the beginning of every siege just trying to frantically ditch all the shitty gear. No ranged for that entire time either, because items on the lower inventory seem to bug first. Weird though, you don't see Smoothrich whining weeks later about being the victim of an exploit.

[Aderyn]

One thing I'm not sure of (in regards to game mechanics)

Say for instance, smoothrich was in his city while FCC was sending wave after wave to attack, if they attacked immediately after a battle was over, would he still be allowed to transfer stuff out of his city??  Or would he just basically have to click faster to get the gear out, before the next wave attacked?  Because that's a pretty shitty mechanic if that's how it works, you can easily get overwhelmed with gear if you aren't quicker on your clicks in strat.

you have 1 minute maximum to get all your stuff out since the opponent clicks attack the second the battle is over, sometimes less... Happened to me during the dashbigha siege recently, i was gonna take everything out but site crashed and they managed to click attack before i could reload the page and take it out. gg?

[CrazyCracka420]

There should be a mechanism in place to allow you to pull out the gear from a siege and put it on a person before the next attack happens.  or just fix the item bomb issue with gear not be accessible.

This clearly didn't happen with the issue in this thread, but if I was in a city that was getting attacked wave after wave, and the only way to get a reprieve to get gear out, was to attack the city yourself, I would certainly do so.  "Sorry, gonna have to wait another 24 hours so we can actually use all of our equipment" seems pretty reasonable.  But this strat has a lot of issues that need to be worked out, and item bombing has been around for multiple strat versions and still isn't addressed.

[BaleOhay]

Let me see if I understand.

defense, that already has insane advantages, should now be allowed to break a stated rule because you do not care for an unfortunate game mechanic?

And us popping this up over and over for a resolution is to try and stop what u just said.. sure why not. nothing happened when they cheated so why not try it as well.

Devs are thrilled with the money the fan base gave them to spend because we respect this game... how about they stop fucking us over and spend  5 mins it would take to resolve this.

[CrazyCracka420]

Well the ideal fix would be to allow fief owners 5 minutes to transfer EQUIPMENT ONLY (not gold/trade goods) out of the fief after being attacked, and say you can't attack your own fief if it's under assault (for any reason).

[BADPLAYER_old2]

You can select all your things to transfer before the battle ends, and then when it ends spam click to transfer to you and barring any bugs like the website going down you will always be able to transfer all your stuff back onto you before the enemy can attack, because there is a couple minutes delay between hitting attack and the battle starting.

You can then just put back in any gear you want until the reinforcement timer ends.

[BaleOhay]

There is time to get the gear out. ask tuetons who were wave attacked. before the end of the fight u have the owner who has to be inside select everything. when fight is over transfer to themselves. during reinforcement time sort and return it.

now in this case we earned this advantage by first catching the fief owner outside and winning an open field fight against him as attacker within sight of his castle and reinforcements. sending him to eu so he could not manage the gear.

then doing it again to maintain the siege. only losing the fight due to cheating.

[Keshian]

you have 1 minute maximum to get all your stuff out since the opponent clicks attack the second the battle is over, sometimes less... Happened to me during the dashbigha siege recently, i was gonna take everything out but site crashed and they managed to click attack before i could reload the page and take it out. gg?

Aderyn you had attacked and won that fief, there was no way you could beat them to get the gear if they selected attack because you needed 1 tick to get inside the fief and then however long else to get the gear out after that but during that 1 tick the battle would be intiated at same time you entered.  Then they somehow won 700 against 1100 in that fight and there was no other opportunity to get the gear out.  Spoils of war - seems reasonable to make it a little difficult to just steal it all away. 

Really wish something had been done before, but at this point if someone blatantly repeated what smoothrich and blackzilla did they would likely get banned and have their city transferred.

[BaleOhay]

Well the ideal fix would be to allow fief owners 5 minutes to transfer EQUIPMENT ONLY (not gold/trade goods) out of the fief after being attacked, and say you can't attack your own fief if it's under assault (for any reason).

if fief owner can get inside during reinforcement period i would have no issues with equipment only control. no gold or goods

[Matey]

Not really looking to revive the debate on this here. It has all been said already. Yes there is a shitty mechanic in place; however, smooth wasn't in his fief because we teleported him to EU multiple times as such he resorted to breaking the stated rules of strat and initiated a fief transfer. It has already been stated by admins that breaking the rules in order to circumvent game mechanics is not OK and Tydeus acknowledged that smooth and zilla did break strat rules when they initiated a fief transfer to prevent us from attacking and to secure all the gear that was piling up in the fief. All that is left is for the devs to address this in some fashion which seems like it will never happen.


tl;dr no point wasting time arguing with each other, just hope devs ever bother to address this.

[Artyem]

you have 1 minute maximum to get all your stuff out since the opponent clicks attack the second the battle is over, sometimes less... Happened to me during the dashbigha siege recently, i was gonna take everything out but site crashed and they managed to click attack before i could reload the page and take it out. gg?

I hope you were only intending to use this as an example, we went through the same shit you did previously and you managed to win.  I was waiting outside and set the order to attack right before the battle ended, I guess I managed to load the page before you did though, since I got to attack before you got your shit out.

So, let us clarify that there was no item bombing at Dashbigha, just to make sure no one starts to throw that battle around like they already do with Ahmerrad.