MiaoDao is too strong...

[Tydeus]

in EU and NA servers, after which this game is mostly balanced.

Awww. That's cute.

[[ptx]]

Awww. That's cute.

Dang, you got me, i was trying to be nice

[BlueKnight]

EU doesn't see how good Miaodao is because there aren't many people using it. If it was as popular as greatswords are, you would love greatswords back... Miaodao is katana+warcleaver combined together.

[Paul]

Someone point Panos to this thread please.

[no_rules_just_play]

Someone point Panos to this thread please.

i think he is dead, the words 2hander, OP and lolstabbing where mentioned, but he didnt show up yet. something is really wrong

[Kafein]

EU has a bunch of greatswords (a surprising amount, not seeing many longswords/HBS), but NA does indead have a bunch of miaodao/ longsword+HBS users. The metagames are just different, and it's hard to understand how others feel without playing there. It may be a problem on CHN servers, but some were able to adapt here, and it's pretty much your word (To Ice and Fire) against theirs right now.

You don't see them much, but when the lucky owners of +3 HBS/Longsword show up, they can't be missed, up there on the scoreboard.

[Zox_Fury]

EU doesn't see how good Miaodao is because there aren't many people using it. If it was as popular as greatswords are, you would love greatswords back... Miaodao is katana+warcleaver combined together.

A mix probably but without thurst... I used MiaoDao my first twice generations and right it s a mighty weapon but without thurst. And Thurst is so important by high damage you can do with a good footwork and abusing movement speed(ath) but in other part with the lengh you can cover . Thurst is a "must have"in my opinion

[Zox_Fury]

[bad type could you erase that please ] 

[Smoothrich]

One day I was looking for a loom to get, and imagined the most OP weapon.  I wished there was something as fast as this longsword, as damaging as a bardiche, and as long as a great sword.   That weapon can't exist, only a retard would make stats like that.  Oh wait. 

[Casimir]

2h sabre is a nice sword, wouldn't say its the biggest threat to balance in cRPG though.

[WITCHCRAFT]

I don't play 2H often, but I like the dadao. Very similar stats to miaodao but cost to upkeep is very low! Do CHN players use dadao as well?

What build do 2H players in CHN use? Slow with lots of Ironflesh or high agility for speed?

[Kafein]

I don't play 2H often, but I like the dadao. Very similar stats to miaodao but cost to upkeep is very low! Do CHN players use dadao as well?

What build do 2H players in CHN use? Slow with lots of Ironflesh or high agility for speed?

The dadao, with its 3 weight, stuns like crazy.

[Elindor]

Miaodao is a little off imho...

I know it doesnt have stab, which is a factor, but the dmg + length + speed combined are maybe a bit much to compensate for no stab (and I use stab quite often)

Not gonna say its "OMG OP!!!1 NURF @ GROUND PLZ!"....but it could maybe use a "tweak"

[Rainbow]

It really is an OP wep.  Nodachi isBARELY better and way more expensive.

Edit.  It is arguably better then the nodachi

[owens]

It is a better weapon due to 12str req.

Its that simple it can be used with 9 athletics at level thirty with 180 wpf.


Frankly in AUS it is an excellent weapon. Although I personally must have a stabbing weapon (because blocking while kicking has not been tweaked on our server yet), but it is awesome for guys who dont feel the need to stab.


+1 p for "Two Handed Sword"