Shu Han declares war on the infamous Crusader Alliance

[Zox_Fury]

Ramsès i'm not here to be involved in the controversy and i don t talk only about Ghuraba but more generally about Chinese Empire which give us help and protection.
       
       You said you don t use alliance to attack but i think there is lot of lies about that... Every alliance ressources are available to support any war in the south and indirectly your alliance is involved in lot of attack/raid of minors guilds in the south(Risen // BF). You turned clans into an alliance instrument and it's not hypotethical accusations cause we have the proof with Ghuraba : your pressure and your corruption to harne our forces and then attack Shu Han was effectively true.

[Vovka]

Sorry, but it was you who teached us how to gank small factions. How big were mercs when you decided to wipe us, 15 man? And you needed to bring Drz and Union with you too.
You are right, attacking DRZ will lead to a very long campaign, but well, i rly would like to be lvl 34 again, just much more fun than low lvl
Also i really like the part where greys tried to turn our allies against us after you all went "inactive" because you want to see mercs wiped so desperately.
now something much more important than harpag:a) why the fuck does that guy put the cable of his headseat under his shirt?
b) where is the headset?

  I think now me and Harpag are forced to make a ban list with names of bad person from ur alliance. And then run after chadz and  every way annoying and threatening him, oh noes 
the history goes on 2nd circle 

[Tyr_]

  I think now me and Harpag are forced to make a ban list with names of bad person from ur alliance. And then run after chadz and  every way annoying and threatening him, oh noes 
the history goes on 2nd circle 

The next logical step for you would then be to invade NA and grab like 50% of it (I am quite sure you can do that with your level of organisation)

[Lepintoi]

All of this is the result of defender having too big an advantage... do something about that and it will be less of a grind.

For example troop cap in cities and castles. Or actually starving people by besieging.

[Harpag]

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  I think now me and Harpag are forced to make a ban list with names of bad person from ur alliance. And then run after chadz and  every way annoying and threatening him, oh noes 
the history goes on 2nd circle 

It's all weird ... When we lost all armies and caravans, most tickets and gold and all allies except Druzhina due to bans (fu) or wave of inactivity, you could wipe us without effort, and now, when we have nice opportunity for a lot of awesome battles and XP ( hell, it's good for all of us! ), I hear mostly lame excuses that we are difficult opponent, and you focus on ganking Shu Han - just lol level of absurd 

[Harpag]

All of this is the result of defender having too big an advantage... do something about that and it will be less of a grind.

For example troop cap in cities and castles. Or actually starving people by besieging.

We never had any problems with this ... 

[Lepintoi]

We never had any problems with this ... 

Yes, implement this after Coalition dies at the gates of Jelkala

[BASNAK]

Yes, implement this after Coalition dies at the gates of Jelkala

Just don't forget to put your alarm clocks to 8 in the morning. It's the new prime time for Eastern Block.

[Casimir]

That's a flaw of the night time system and not a choice that people make.

For people who professed to want a fun war there sure is a lot of crying here.

[JohanE]

For people who professed to want a fun war there sure is a lot of crying here.

Your boyfriend's from the east just arrived, the fun is about to begin.

You could not take Uxkhal from the grey's when they had 700~ body armors. We get why you needed the Fallen/HRE to come down and fight for you

[bagge]

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1)  If you wanted "fun" why did you attack empty Templar Fiefs and give up as soon as they managed to reinforce?

2)  If you wanted a war against somebody not in a major power block why did you attack someone in a major power block?

3)  If you don't like alliances and all the boring politics of strat why did you ally with the closest faction to you instead of just attacking them in a "fun" war?

4)  If they were too small to attack then why did you choose to attack a faction that was undefended at the time of the attack and was essentially smaller with less resources than you in that war?

5)  If you don't like expansionist factions why does Shu Han have so many fiefs per player (more than the Coalition - 4 players per fief compare to 5 players per fief) and why are you trying to expand further?  According to your "Templars have too much land and deserve some of it being taken from then" mantra then you yourselves have too much land and should be attacked.

6)  If you want "interesting" why didn't you attack a neutral faction instead or help speed up the demise of the UIF instead of attacking the Anti-UIF and breaking up our assault on the UIF?

7)  If we were no different than the UIF why did we let you roster where you wanted, let you trade with our enemies and give you villages with just one string attached (don't get in between us and the UIF)?  Non of these were allowed by the UIF in the past.

The fact is that you chose to attack some undefended fiefs whilst their owners were in the middle of a combined assault on the UIF.

You could have attacked any number of factions (Ni, Risen, Rebels, Imperiale, Ottomans, Greys, DRZ, Barabe, Ecorcheur, Blackfist, Wataga, Angevin, Brotherhood or DKG) and been left alone by the Anti-UIF but I guess those factions have troops in their fiefs so weren't such a nice target. 

You could have waited until the assault on Grey succeeded or ground to a halt and then attacked Templars in the west.  At that point the Coalition and Mercs would probably have stayed out since those lands aren't actually useful to us - it is only the Templar troops that have now been diverted that we needed.  But then I guess Templars would be back in their lands defending those fiefs so you would have had a proper war instead of a land grab.

Instead you went for the easy option of ganking some undefended fiefs (a move the UIF would be proud of) and are butt hurt because because a set of highly predictable and 100% known consequences have come to pass.

As for being "a dominating enormous alliance which roflstomps any faction that does not have a similar alliance."  There are over 250 players in 15 factions owning ~20% of the EU map that we have never invaded or attacked (except to protect S&D).  If we were the UIF we would have roflstomped these smaller neutral factions before going up against the UIF.   The fact that there are so many landed factions in EU right now is a testament to the fact that we are NOT "roflstomping" small independent factions.

Strat 3: only 15 or so factions ever owned land in EU and by the end it was only 6.
Strat 4: 26 different factions hold land now and another 5 or so held land in the past. 

I'll let people work out for themselves who is better towards small neutral clans.

Gonna reply to the post later Tomas

[Harpag]

Gonna reply to the post later Tomas

This wall of shit by Tomas is so stinky that it doesn't even deserve my downvoting 

[Casimir]

Your boyfriend's from the east just arrived, the fun is about to begin.

You could not take Uxkhal from the grey's when they had 700~ body armors. We get why you needed the Fallen/HRE to come down and fight for you

I don't recall attacking uxkhal, delusuional fool.

You guys attacked a load of undefended fiefs, called it a war and then cried when we called in support.

The major players in the Shu Han strat faction are ex nords, its no suprise they declared war on us rather than anyone else.

[Korgoth]

Your boyfriend's from the east just arrived, the fun is about to begin.

You could not take Uxkhal from the grey's when they had 700~ body armors. We get why you needed the Fallen/HRE to come down and fight for you

Shits about to go down, and looks like I'm the first target of the HRE. Time to prove myself I feel.

I'm already liking the look of the battle roster.

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[JohanE]

You guys attacked a load of undefended fiefs, called it a war and then cried when we called in support.

Shu han was provoked by an attack from "a random who just joined the Crusader Alliance".. You started this war so the new great big eastern alliance could come down and remove us from the map.

I say good luck to you, and good day.