Has history ever happened?

[LordBerenger]

Well, it's still about history and events.

How far back do you remember (have memories)? Childhood?

I remember back when God created me in heaven and sent me down to Earth. Briefly anyhow.

[Prinz_Karl]

Isn't it that we know it did happen sometime but we don't know exactly "how" it happened? The correct question is not if a history event has happened but is it historically accurate. Like we know Napoleon died somewhere in 1821 but do we know if it was just his age and disease or if he was poisoned? We never know for sure.

If it would be possible to fly around our earth with 4x the speed of light, wouldn't we be just being incredibly fast and taking that distance 4*times the speed of light, why would it have an influence on time at all.

Well the laws of physics would tell you otherwise, they would also tell you by the way that you can't travel faster than the speed of light. It's true as unbelievable at it seems and is proven. All effects that are predicted with the relativity theory with the approach to the speed of light (your mass will get bigger, time will slow down and space will warp)  actually happen to be true.

You might believe it or not but when they measured the time a plane took for a long flight and compared it to earth time the time in the plane was slower by some of a billion seconds.

[Rantrex]

Well, you can show me skeleton being called "remains of Napoleon.

Does human turn into bare bones after death? Sure!

But I would rather see person alive AND dying than seeing those remains. THEN I would know, that the date of this persons death is 100% accurate and such event happened.


But get back to memories:

You do have some memories, right? Feelings,  situations etc. But imagine, that is possible to create human looking for 30 y.o. with brain memorizing events that never happened. This human will be like occupant from "The lost room". Noone knows his history, and he's the only one being concerned about some "other" past.

[Teeth]

Go home Rantrex, you're high!

[Tears of Destiny]

This sounds like the rantings of a freshmen who just started philosophy and knows just enough to miss-use his education...


This is the internet, most people here are not equipped properly to have a proper discussion on this subject, and those that do are not going to waste time arguing with someone on this forum of all forums over such a things. Go to your local university and find the proper professor if you really want to have a proper discussion. Right now your arguments are starting to infringe on the practically impossible or highly improbable, such as

But imagine, that is possible to create human looking for 30 y.o. with brain memorizing events that never happened. This human will be like occupant from "The lost room". Noone knows his history, and he's the only one being concerned about some "other" past.

TL:DR version:

Go home Rantrex, you're high!

There are clever arguments, and then there are the ramblings of those who are trying to be clever.

[Overdriven]

But I would rather see person alive AND dying than seeing those remains. THEN I would know, that the date of this persons death is 100% accurate and such event happened.

Sorry my initial answer was wrong. You don't need a museum...you need time travel.

[Templar_Ratigan]

I suppose it could be mentioned that history doesn't exactly exist without us to define what history is. It's our term for something that isn't quite as objective as we would like to think.

But then again this kind of idea is pretty useless as an explanatory tool. However I thought it was fun to draw a comparison between ideas that question what our senses tell us reality is and this topic.

*Looks around....slowly backs into hole before rocks are thrown at his pretentious looking head with it's pretentious words*

[Rantrex]

Am I arguing with someone? I don't think so.

I'm talkin about facts.

I think such forum is way better than discussion with any professor.

If you have nothing interesting to say about history, then stop shitposting in such topic.

[[ptx]]

History? I sometimes dig up history in my garden. Europe, afterall. Real enough?

[Havoco]

Cold hard sceptic are we? Seeing is believing? Sounds like u need a time machine. Don't get me wrong, it would be awesome to go back in history, but ur asking for too much without the means.

[Rantrex]

Well, time machine? So there would be like 50% chance to go back to some point on the timeline, and 50% chance that world started wtih observers brithdaty,  what would mean either you won't be able to travel earlier than your birthday, or you would simply die because of entering emn\ptiness.

[Casimir]

If you have nothing interesting to say about history, then stop shitposting in such topic.

'shitposting'  in a shit posters topic

[Rantrex]

Seriously? I asked a question about history, and I think it's quite important. Typical templar ignorrant.

[Casimir]

I'm sorry but if that quote is how your going to respond to people who give you feedback then why the fuck should anyone enter a serious discussion with you?


You raise a point, but its without evidence and completely unfalsifiable.  Interesting, but there's really little to discuss here, other that peoples personal opinions on the possibility. Take it to spam or somewhere, not the historical discussion area.

[Rantrex]

I raise a point having in mind a LACK of evidence.