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best 1h for 1h/shield on foot.

Italian Sword
Nordic War Sword
Nordic Champion Sword

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Re: So what's the best 1h?
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2013, 10:15:23 pm »
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Re: So what's the best 1h?
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2013, 10:58:12 pm »
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Re: So what's the best 1h?
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2013, 11:16:21 pm »
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Broad Short Sword - Very fast, decent length, good swing/stab - great for agi focus build
Regular Espada - 1h awlpike stab. Use the swing to interrupt, then stabby stab mcstab in the face. Very fast weapon also

I rotate between those 2 swords and I always carry my iberian mace.

Also use a knightly heater shield and my build is 15 st and 21 agi.


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Re: So what's the best 1h?
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2013, 11:29:29 pm »
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My favourite is the Military cleaver, followed by the Nordic Champion Sword. But there are plenty of very viable options

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Re: So what's the best 1h?
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2013, 11:34:42 pm »
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I really think that the Knightly Arming Sword isn't a bad choice. Admittedly, it is more stab-reliant which is bad since the turn nerf, and even before...but I find myself able to stab people effectively. More importantly, it's able to stab cav effectively. I almost never use a shield, and am currently 1h hero-mode, so the length surely helps to kill both inf and cav alike. In addition to the above, the model is quite a bit slimmer than the nordic swords, much in the same way the scimitars and picks are. Tough to see, very easy to get a quick leftswing feint to an overhead cut, which is likely to hit their head given the 1h animations.
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Re: So what's the best 1h?
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2013, 11:39:54 pm »
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Yes never forget the KAS, its like NCS but with 1 less cut and 3 more pierce, really worth it if you like to pull of some thrusts.
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Re: So what's the best 1h?
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2013, 11:47:08 pm »
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Think of it this way.

Champion Sword sacrifices speed for a bit of length and an extra pip of damage over the lower tier, still bad stab.. (War Sword)
Italian Sword sacrifices some of its cut damage for an added stab attack at a good speed.
Nordic Sword sacrifices pierce damage for more cut, at a decent speed. (still weaker than champion in raw damage)

Now, classify all that.

Champ Sword-> More beneficial as a Cavalry Weapon. (akin to Shashka and the straight Arab swords)
Italian Sword-> A reliable weapon both cutting as stabbing.
Nordic war Sword-> Cutting weapon at good speed, less reliable stab. (Though with 6 powerstrike and good footwork should not glance.)

Before I was the spear nerd I am today, I was a decent 1h. Not the greatest, but I held my own. I learned quickly how freaking awesome your weapon selection is as a 1h, you have something for any situation(if you bring it with you). What i did then, was mentally classify the majority of the weapons into what they could be used for.

For these three in specific, I will quickly rule out the champion sword if you are infantry. Why? The CUT damage around 30-32 is not going to move much anyways. Maybe it will feel like it because you will have an unconscious mental bias when trying it out, but its not that big.  The extra length is also not always a good thing, you don't want to get caught up on teammates.

Leaving with now the Nordic War Sword and the Italian Sword. This part however, is just up to preference on your end. If you used both weapons to their strengths, the Italian will SLIGHTLY come out on top due to the much higher stab score. However, if you are part of the "1h stab blows and is for losers crowd," you won't be stabbing anyways, so you might as well stack the cut damage in your favor. The reach difference is negligible.

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Re: So what's the best 1h?
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2013, 12:03:09 am »
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If you just use cut, Elite scimitar is better or Niuweidao at short range.


Price should be taken in consideration. Best stats = big price
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Re: So what's the best 1h?
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2013, 12:19:16 am »
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Re: So what's the best 1h?
« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2013, 02:54:40 am »
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Think of it this way.

Champion Sword sacrifices speed for a bit of length and an extra pip of damage over the lower tier, still bad stab.. (War Sword)
Italian Sword sacrifices some of its cut damage for an added stab attack at a good speed.
Nordic Sword sacrifices pierce damage for more cut, at a decent speed. (still weaker than champion in raw damage)

Now, classify all that.

Champ Sword-> More beneficial as a Cavalry Weapon. (akin to Shashka and the straight Arab swords)
Italian Sword-> A reliable weapon both cutting as stabbing.
Nordic war Sword-> Cutting weapon at good speed, less reliable stab. (Though with 6 powerstrike and good footwork should not glance.)

Before I was the spear nerd I am today, I was a decent 1h. Not the greatest, but I held my own. I learned quickly how freaking awesome your weapon selection is as a 1h, you have something for any situation(if you bring it with you). What i did then, was mentally classify the majority of the weapons into what they could be used for.

For these three in specific, I will quickly rule out the champion sword if you are infantry. Why? The CUT damage around 30-32 is not going to move much anyways. Maybe it will feel like it because you will have an unconscious mental bias when trying it out, but its not that big.  The extra length is also not always a good thing, you don't want to get caught up on teammates.

Leaving with now the Nordic War Sword and the Italian Sword. This part however, is just up to preference on your end. If you used both weapons to their strengths, the Italian will SLIGHTLY come out on top due to the much higher stab score. However, if you are part of the "1h stab blows and is for losers crowd," you won't be stabbing anyways, so you might as well stack the cut damage in your favor. The reach difference is negligible.


Hey, thanks for breaking it down so well... :]
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Re: So what's the best 1h?
« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2013, 03:58:28 am »
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Niuweidao
Niuweidao
Niuweidao
Niuweidao
Niuweidao



Remember once on my STF alt i had 0 PS and used a +0 Niuweidao. Managed to kill some light, medium-light armored infantry that got near me with it.

It's badass. Plus it looks sweat as well.
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Re: So what's the best 1h?
« Reply #41 on: January 12, 2013, 04:53:35 am »
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Re: So what's the best 1h?
« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2013, 10:52:08 am »
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NCS, bought one once, never sold it again.
Arabian cav sword is also worth mentioning, slightly slower but slighty more damage and reach.


Sidenote, lenght of the NCS is good, with decent agi (21) you can outrange even 2handers if you play it right ^^
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Re: So what's the best 1h?
« Reply #43 on: January 12, 2013, 11:14:52 am »
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Scottish sword! Damn fast and the stab is very powerful. And it looks great.

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Re: So what's the best 1h?
« Reply #44 on: January 12, 2013, 02:01:51 pm »
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Scottish sword! Damn fast and the stab is very powerful. And it looks great.

It looks better than a toothpick while still essentially being a toothpick.