Research: What Generation were/are you before the Level/Retirement Patch? Now?

[Smoketh]

Ya, having played with heirlooms and now playing without, it doesn't feel like that big of a difference to me. The way I look at it is in 10 fights where you almost kill the person but get killed, having  heirlooms would chance the outcome of maybe 1 or 2 of those fights.

[Cepeshi]

pre patch i was 4, now i am 11, 3mill till 12 this option is somehow missing in the poll

[Armpit_Sweat]

If i am not mistaken ( please correct me if i am wrong ), there was "an official" statement regarding some new "skills", whatever that might be...

« on: January 09, 2011, 21:16:38 »

If people want to work towards something, I recommend heirlooms. Retirement will be back soon, and the only condition will be level 31.

I don't know if heirlooms are currently strong or hardly worth it, if it's the latter, they might get a buff. I'll check with the items team.

Also, there will be a, how should I put it without revealing too much, very special set of "skills" that you can acquire soon, in another way than simply leveling. This should make things very interesting for people that want to have more persistance to their char, without breaking the balance that the game has currently recieved (aka not making them godlike).

Now let me get back to finishing that patch, just dropped in here to announce this .

I am not sure if that got implemented or not, may be it was something i did not notice, since i smoke lots of weed. In any case - this was a great idea!
Number of heirloomed items could be limited to 1-3, and in return, for them who has spare time to play, some items/skills that do not, in any way, alter the gameplay.
New banners/flags/battle horns/titles/hair color/taunts/silly hats/donkey mounts/golden AK47/a pet hamster on the shoulder/etc.

It would motivate the grinders, without upsetting players who "have life", and possibly offer more personality to rpg fans.

Personally, i do not feel "outclassed" by gen 10+ players right now... I might be, when they get to gen 50+ I never complained about fighting lvl 45+ pre-patch superheroes either.

[Tears of Destiny]

I play for fun and retire to make new builds... like currently every gen I lower str and raise agil by 3 to see how that effects archery... for fun...

Or something...

I did not exist before patch, and now have a gen 3 and a half dozen or so gen twos and three gen ones...

[Blondin]

That's funny I really like playing the game so I played a lot and retired a lot, Goretooth in earlier post mentioned he liked the game.  But then you see people complaining and getting angry at people who retired because they don't have the same heirlooms or are smug, which seems more of a grinder mentality to me.  The heirlooms really don't make that much of a difference, I just used non-heirloomed danish great sword with non-heirloomed plate mail and did better than I usually do.  I think being a tin can is lame so i don't do it too often, but most people can afford it now so if you really are worried heirloomed people have an advantage just pull out the plate and greatswords or elegant poleaxe.

sorry, it was a simple remark, there was no negative view.
Yes, i see no problem in the fact that some are xxgen, and i don't think heirloom gives a significant advantage, at least it will give absolutely no benefit in Strategus (which is what interests me).
it's the whole beauty of it, because everyone is so satisfied, the grinders can grind and casual can play with the grinders without big disadvantage. Many people say it is a failure, we can not please two extremes, but i think most people get a fair deal. You say it yourself, this allows you to play longer, change build and make test.
Play for hours and hours remain a grinder behavior, and play only infrequently remains a casual behavior
In fact they are two very different mentality, but everyone has fun.

edit : sry for off topic

[Cris]

keep the thread troll plz - dont want it moved to spam 

need a few more votes to have a sample size big enough to represent a real server (with probably 10-25% error marging cosidering the amount of people that doesnt use the forums - like new players)

[Deafening]

What the hell. I always figured that if I was at the same gen. as [whatever renowned player], I could be pretty badass too. Turns out I only need the same gen. as [random derper]. Weird.

Flood: was 3, now 3.
Rain: was 1, now 3.

That I have at least five other alts at level 28-30 is a thing, true.

[Rhaelys]

Pre-patch gen 5, now gen 14.

[22nd_King_Plazek]

I have been playing since before the xp-barn days. I am generation 1. I cannot be bothered to level up a character all over again just to increase a value or two by a little on some piece of equipment. Nor have I particularly noticed being underpowered because of it.

I have my build and I like it.

[Huey Newton]

gen 5 pre patch

gen 13 now

[Patricia]

Gen 3 pre patch.

Gen 1 Post patch.

[TomMyyY]

10 -> 21

[kinngrimm]

5/27 main 1h/shield
3/5 alt Thrower

[cmp]

1 -> 2 (I blame Vargas)

[BD_Guard_Bane]

I was gen 3 before, still the same now. I can't be bothered retiring now, seems like too much effort. Retirement doesn't really properly recreate the fun stage of being a peasant and levelling up - you become to fixated on getting to 31 again so you can retire again. Making alts does though.

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Also, on the subject of heirlooms, I think they do make quite a large difference. Try playing as cavalry against people who have champion coursers or champion sarranid horses when you just have a normal version. Also, try bringing a shieldbreaker (2hander axe) to deal with a shielder who has heirloomed an already fast 1handed weapon. The axe just gets outspammed. I recently bought a bastard sword because I kept encountering players with masterworked katanas, too. It barely keeps up with them, but it's better than the sword I was using.
Not to say that necessarily heirlooms are overpowered, I just find myself having to adapt to them a lot (and by adapting, often I mean running away/avoiding those players).