Have punch strength be determined by only strength

[Diomedes]

I think this would be a good change.  Right now, many long rounds end up as friendly fist-fights to the finish where there's a lot of players fighting just one or two.  There's a disincentive though for archers to turn and fight because they have no chance against melee-strength opponents in a fist fight.  If punch strength were determined by only a character's strength, and not powerstrike as well, then more archers would turn and fight.

This is a small change that will have a small effect.  It's main purpose is to give archers more incentive to turn and fight at the end of a round (or throwers to, as sometimes happens).  It's not a balancing change because it's not actually affecting balance very much.  It's main aim to to change incentives just a little bit.

I don't mind end of round boxing.  It's a fun way to end very unbalanced rounds and is a nice change of pace sometimes.

[CrazyCracka420]

TL/DR.

Just wanted to chime in my 2 cents about punching...I honestly think some of the heavier gauntlets should do a lot of damage if you punch someone in the face who doesn't have a helmet on.  Reading the SoIaF books is what really made me think about what would happen if a plate gauntlet (or even mailed glove) punched you as hard as they could in your face or the side of the head. 

I think punch damage should be based on the glove used + your strength, versus the helmet the other guy is using.

[cmp]

..? Punch damage is not affected by PS.

[Prinz_Karl]

It's affected by weight of your gauntlets mostly.

[oprah_winfrey]

..? Punch damage is not affected by PS.

Does strength affect it? Or is it just glove weight?

[CrazyCracka420]

My guess is STR affects it, but I always was under the impression glove weight (versus armor of the enemy) was the main factor in damage dealt.

[Diomedes]

..? Punch damage is not affected by PS.

My mistake then.  I was told it did.  Thanks for the info!

[NuberT]

punch damage should be buffed, doubling it would be a good start .

[Kafein]

punch damage should be buffed, doubling it would be a good start .

This. I get killed myself when I start slapping enemy afkers

[Piok]

Biggest problem of Crpg nowadays...
To compensate kick damage should be determined by agility

[Carthan]

If this proves too difficult, just add blocking to stones.
They EASILY do more than twice as much blunt damage than a punch when used as a melee weapon.

[pingpong]

If this proves too difficult, just add blocking to stones.
They EASILY do more than twice as much blunt damage than a punch when used as a melee weapon.

YES, because that would under no circumstances look absolutely ridiculous, and while your at it, why not add crushtrough block and knockdown aswell, also imagine a guy blocking a greatsword with a stone, this would truly be the pinnacle of crpg.

[CrazyCracka420]

YES, because that would under no circumstances look absolutely ridiculous, and while your at it, why not add crushtrough block and knockdown aswell, also imagine a guy blocking a greatsword with a stone, this would truly be the pinnacle of crpg.

You'd have to make it so it blocks like a punch.  You can block with fists, but a weapon goes right through your block.  Blocking with fists is only going to block a punch.