Ridicules

[Noctivagant]

Maybe I'll admin some Merc strat battles for fun so the admin abuse isn't that one-sided.

Sure because Khorin and Shik weren't on uif side, I don't think I've seen Shik even getting down from ladders. But of course if you oppose us you might lose your developer status and get banned Paul, who knows maybe some members of your family might disappear.
Because chadz works for us

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Awww sense of humor "pussy&vagina" funny. You must be the arithmetic man! yeah you add trouble, subtract fun, divide attention, and multiply ignorance.
Hold on I got some more : Your asinine simian countenance alludes that your fetid stench has annulled the anthropoid ape species diversity
Yeah its like comedy club here! Pussies and vaginas people!

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Regarding Pawlo's ban, it may have been a bit harsh. Maybe if possible a ban for1-2 days on EU_3 and NA_3 so he can't play in strategus battles would have been better. No matter who it is whether HRE, Grey Order, DRZ, Mercs anyone would be pissed if enemies were spawning in your spawn point. I mean why do it in the first place, it just creates a problem on the forums. If it's under handed and being cheap don't do it. Simple as that...

Yeah, he totally deserved a ban at all even though chadz sorta said it was allowed, ban him!

[kinngrimm]

Yeah, he totally deserved a ban at all even though chadz sorta said it was allowed, ban him!

When chadz is not there to judge, the admins do have the power right? chadz statement onto this topic came afterwards, so that admin(which we still don't know who it was and i also don't really care) didn't act against any rules setted by chadz. I am arguing here for the admins in general not for this particular ban.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

When chadz is not there to judge, the admins do have the power right? chadz statement onto this topic came afterwards, so that admin(which we still don't know who it was and i also don't really care) didn't act against any rules setted by chadz. I am arguing here for the admins in general not for this particular ban.

I am aware of that, however, even now when it has been settled Adalwulf is still saying the guy needs a ban, and I personally believe that when you're fighting against someone, who is doing something that isn't necessarily rule breaking, and that rules haven't been laid down against, then you shouldn't assume you're right and ban the guy, you should either get permission from the devs or you should post a banthread like every regular guy has to, that way no guys get banned for doing something that offends the admin fighting against them but besides that isn't against the rules.

[Noctivagant]

I am aware of that, however, even now when it has been settled Adalwulf is still saying the guy needs a ban, and I personally believe that when you're fighting against someone, who is doing something that isn't necessarily rule breaking, and that rules haven't been laid down against, then you shouldn't assume you're right and ban the guy, you should either get permission from the devs or you should post a banthread like every regular guy has to, that way no guys get banned for doing something that offends the admin fighting against them but besides that isn't against the rules.

Thats Adawulf's OPINION and that doesn't change anything. As well as many opinions we receive from the opposing side. Don't be so close minded to criticism. If there is a problem with the ban, if its unjustified just make a post in unban section and problem will be solved. What's the point of this thread anyway? it shouldn't be about the ban it should just clear out the doubts about the rule and since chadz gave an official answer, just write the unban post.

[Ninja_Khorin]

Sure because Khorin and Shik weren't on uif side

Oh yes. I have always supported UIF in its endeavours.

[Noctivagant]

Oh yes. I have always supported UIF in its endeavours.

Didn't mean that, we both had admins on our roster, its not like how Paul made the situation look like : Poor UIF getting tortured by us and our evil admins who have nothing to do but looking for an open spot to ban them. Thats actually what Grey members said in couple of topics "system is against them"

[Lt_Anders]

Didn't mean that, we both had admins on our roster, its not like how Paul made the situation look like : Poor UIF getting tortured by us and our evil admins who have nothing to do but looking for an open spot to ban them. Thats actually what Grey members said in couple of topics "system is against them"

Only been reading this but, why was a ban necessary? A kick would have been MORE than efficient but a ban and longer than 1-2 hours? Still sounds dumb to do. If there were multiple admins on, why was it the side with the spawn point that did it? Couldn't let the other admin on the enemy side handle, or even WARN the guy. No, just ban and now, because of that, you get threads like this.

Do you not think?!
I wonder to the sanity of our EU counterparts. Perhaps having an NA admin or NA player manage EU battles would be better than EU's handling themselves (and vice versa, of course).

[Lizard_man]

Naduril, grow the fuck up and stop minusing peoples posts for no fucking reason...

[Latvian]

Naduril, grow the fuck up and stop minusing peoples posts for no fucking reason...

how about we all just cycle through naduril's posts and minus them?  it wont change mind of this ignorant person but atleast we would let him know how we reputationwhores feel.

[Lizard_man]

how about we all just cycle through naduril's posts and minus them?  it wont change mind of this ignorant person but atleast we would let him know how we reputationwhores feel.

We could, but fuck stooping to his level...

[KingBread]

I don't get point of this discusion is it that one grey set his spawn point at enemy forward base ?

For me it seems like if someone capture a catapult and use it against owners or use a ladder that was SUPPOSED to bring attackers to the walls to go down from the walls.

Banning for this is abuse for me specially that nobody ever discussed that before.(or at least it is not in global conciousness yet) 

[Lizard_man]

OP didn't exactly make it clear, personally i thought he was on about the enemy spawn at first. Rather than a forward spawn...

[Erasmas]

For me it seems like if someone capture a catapult and use it against owners or use a ladder that was SUPPOSED to bring attackers to the walls to go down from the walls.

Pity I can't give you more than one "+". That is exactly it!

[Adalwulf]

I am aware of that, however, even now when it has been settled Adalwulf is still saying the guy needs a ban, and I personally believe that when you're fighting against someone, who is doing something that isn't necessarily rule breaking, and that rules haven't been laid down against, then you shouldn't assume you're right and ban the guy, you should either get permission from the devs or you should post a banthread like every regular guy has to, that way no guys get banned for doing something that offends the admin fighting against them but besides that isn't against the rules.

Never said he still deserves ban. This battle was what 2 days ago? Just a ban from the strat battle would have sufficed. I normally don't agree with bans since crpg needs it's community to survive. If we keep banning people there won't be anyone left in the long run from people quitting.