@Espwn thanks for clarifications
I don't want you specially to take up that cause, i am just wondering at times about justifications i hear here. Also i am not in a mega alliance but in an alliance of smaller sized clans, which also is part of the eastern block which shares enemies ... the western block which also not all of them are allied even if some of the eastern block may just categorize it that way and vice versa. And yes Wolves weren't yet in action, does that change anything of the arguments i made or is that statement smoke&mirrow as so often.
not sure about the term "gripping at". I stated that i am not all aware of the relations in NA, working on that though ^^. While it may look like it, as you described, it could also be seen differently with the terms stated in that NAP, not sure that Hosp have thought that completly through when they signed it, but the intentions seemed clear that someone close to them may get attacked. Then again, chevaliers and Hosp were as much allied as you are to TkoV i suppose ;)
So while TKoV can get rid of Chevalier someone who is not allied ^^ to Hosp but seen as friendly to them and therefor one less supporter also helps anyone who would still fight Hosp, at least keep up the pressure for 2 months.
And yes perhaps i am just thinking too complicated and as Espwn stated and myself before, you are just out there to have a good time and some fun, but the way you color things often Kesh leads myself to other conclusions. So perhaps a little less propaganda would suit the fun faction more than always going all out on the "evil enemies". After all, we are all just people.
I just stated it to you directly, no propaganda - we are vassals of BIRD clan, we are not allied with VE.
You are the one using propaganda, political speech - of course you are part of an entire eastern bloc that shares common enemy - that will never attack each other, merc only for each other and not UIF and had open borders with each other (until that proved ruinous)(I merced in a lot of those fights and heard the issues regarding the open borders), which is far more than we do with VE where we just exchange goods at our border while keeping all people out of our inner area (the spread legs as Partyboy would put it), we have people merc against VE when we don't support their actions, we had mercs apply for both side of that Chevalieres fight, we don't even have any common enemies with VE anymore.
Im not using any political speech, I'm telling you how we relate with other clans and not trying to use semantics like we are part of an alliance of smaller clans that just happens to be allied with half the EU map but its not really part of a mega-alliance against UIF. Chevalieres had 5-10 guys sign up against us in every major KUTT battle, never once applied for our side, not even one of them. Do you really expect us to bail them out, just because of our kind nature? We owe fealty to BIRD CLAN so of course we will obey his commands to the letter. It came out that in the negotiations Hospitallers tried to exclude Chevalieres from the free war agreement without repercussions but VE said no and Hosp just gave in to their demands screwing over an ally who had been mercing in all their fights and had been a direct ally for half of Strat 4.0 before they forced them to attack a castle they didn't want to attack.
This 2 month non-aggression pact was made after no major city and only 1 castle siege, hero party was no longer at war with them and we had not sent an army their way in weeks - so it was just VE and NH against Hospitallers who had 11,000 troops stored in fiefs and they just gave in to VE's demands and handed over Chevalieres on a silver platter so that they would stop being attacked. I'm sorry but if I was one of their allies I would be cursing them out right now for being such backstabbers.
Hospitallers were not over a barrel in that non-aggression pact agreement. As soon as the plate armor started running out they just gave up, not even a bit of courage as the 2nd biggest NA faction, nvm that other factions fight entire wars and take cities using mid- to low- tier gear. We just finished the first NA war where multiple cities/castle were besieged and taken and you give us shit because we don't bail out a clan across the entire map that has been against us since the beginning of strat - might as well ask hosp why they don't send aid - oh wait they have been one of your biggest NA trading partners.
P.S. Griping is bitching. And its VE not TKOV.
