The truth abbout patch "nerf"

[Mlekce]

Our nice devs decided to "nerf" 2h and archery,but instead of nerfing it they buffed it.
Only Danish and German GS got -2 speed and every 2h weapon got a buff in stats,speed,dmg...
They even added more cut and pierce for Danish and GS.
HBS,Longsword are almoust unblockable in agility char hands.
I dunno much abbout ranged since i newer was an good archer,but this new longbow stats are great.
If u use bodikins arrows that convert cut to pierce you can get 31 pierce dmg and deal dmg as steel pick do.
I remember times when every noob who get to horse can have a good score,now with this ammount of ranged you need to be at least good as royans to live first minute as cav.
Lancing dmg is shit,and instead of balancing game you will get now archers ammount increased.
Everyone is crying abbout danish and archery but ammount of 2h and ranged are increasing,not decreasing.

So i don't know why u biching abbout nerf when ur classes are op now then ever. I would like to 1h get this cind of nerf.

[Osiris]

they made archers slower yay! and re balanced 2h i wouldn't say they wanted to nerf them.

[Dezilagel]

HBS,Longsword are almoust unblockable in agility char hands.

Yep, completely unblockable.

And cav is really up and hard to play too.

[Mlekce]

this will cause a lot of - but 2h are now OP then ever.
They have speed of 1h weapons and dmg of polearms.

[CrazyCracka420]

Nerf archers (by making them unable to run and shoot another day) nerf cavalry's best weapon, add more damage to 2h's.  Seems like a normal c-rpg patch to me.

[Mlekce]

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[CrazyCracka420]

Yeah I'm a heavy lance + courser cav.  Thankfully I have a +3 heavy lance (so it's tolerable), but I've used regular heavy lances in strat battles (23pierce) and they are absolutely garbage.  A lance is better than a +3 heavy lance, that's just fucked up and I'm really glad they just completely wasted my 3 loompoints I put into the heavy lance.  I can't even give this fucking thing away now.

[Tovi]

Shielders just need shield bash. We don't ask any buff or nerf.

[Adamar]

I want to be able to defend myself in melee and shoot, both have always been hard, but now it's worse.

All archers have been slowed down in an attempt to remove kiters. Making melee easier for meleers is bad for ballance.

Devs need to come up with a fair solution and stop cathering to pure build noobs.

[Kafein]

Devs need to come up with a fair solution and stop cathering to pure build noobs.

That's exactly what they did by making the pure agi (after having enough PD) archer non-optimal, mind you.

[Malaclypse]

I don't understand the reasoning behind buffing Longsword/HBS because they were already both phenomenal weapons.

[Adamar]

That's exactly what they did by making the pure agi (after having enough PD) archer non-optimal, mind you.

They made all archers bad and now pure meleers can not only run over kiters, but also dance around the rest.

[Kafein]

I don't understand the reasoning behind buffing Longsword/HBS because they were already both phenomenal weapons.

EU balancers make a balance patch tailored for the EU metagame, which had almost no short 2h.

They made all archers bad

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and now pure meleers can not only run over kiters, but also dance around the rest.

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[Matey]

As per usual... shielders get nothing.

[Malaclypse]

EU balancers make a balance patch tailored for the EU metagame, which had almost no short 2h.

While that may be, I think that the nerf on the longer 2-hands would have been sufficient with no buff needed for the shorter ones; or, buff the shorter ones but leave the longer ones unchanged. It seems pretty overkill and unnecessary to do both!