NA Siege is Dying

[Xeen]

I'll never forget the day that I was raging at all of you because we had like 10 people on and no one above 21 strength to break a fucking door.  Then for like 2 hours we had like 50 people accuse us of strength crutching. 

[kinngrimm]

NA Siege has been ruined by clans min/max specializing their builds to it. ....

I don't quite see it that way. On EU we have 2 clans which at times have the most players on siege, HRE and Grey Order. While it is at times unsettling to get against an organized crowed, still i wouldn't like it any other way, as the challenge is then bigger and when the pub nevertheless wins, it is the more satisfying.

Even if you have only 2 chokepoints on a map where all the time 2-5 chrushthrough are standing, it is in the most cases still doable if attackers group up, shielders first pushing taking hits, other inf following and the ranged trying not to block ladders, then you can keep constant pressure and people can slip through do damage and ware them down. But only 2 chokepoints/entrances is in the most cases just a pain in the a...

[Froto_the_Loc]

It's nearly 5:30 in Locia. There should be like 30 people on!

[rustyspoon]

NA Siege has been shit for a while because of the maps. The vast majority are terrible and the rotation never gets changed. No one who has the ability to do anything actually gives a shit it seems.

As far as people blaming clans like Kutt, really you should be blaming the multi system. A team that is well-organized (i.e. a bunch of people in the same teamspeak) are going to win more often just through good teamwork. When people lose a lot they're stuck with a x1, which makes them mad and they quit.

Personally, I couldn't give a shit whether I win or lose. I just want fun maps to run around in for the small amount of time I actually get to play this game.

[Tears of Destiny]

I'll never forget the day that I was raging at all of you because we had like 10 people on and no one above 21 strength to break a fucking door.  Then for like 2 hours we had like 50 people accuse us of strength crutching.

And that is why I love my siege character, 12PS with a 48 cut axe. Door? What door. Psh psh psh...


I think the main issue is indeed the maps, as some of them are a bit too boring. We need the community to post more often of what exact maps they dislike, and hopefully have some people start making custom maps that seem more alive. Too many bare-bone maps with just two choices to flag.

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If you can come up with "10-20" I'll give you 100k cRPG gold.

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"10-20"

Gief gold nao plz

[matt2507]

NA Siege is Dying

dude, Mod is Dying..

[Jaren]

I've always wondered how much donation is actually put back into readily improving this mod, I'd happily throw money at the developers for providing an enjoyable ftp mod, but then topics like this and bug-fix/equip-fixes go on and little is noticeably done.

I do like how they're proposing inquiries on what we want/like to see but as I said above to little too often, I can't say I can provide any developmental support besides my input and money.

[Aderyn]

siege isn't worth keeping alive. Let it die.

[CrazyCracka420]

Battle is where the big boys play.  Siege has always been imbalanced, battle has always been a lot more "even".  Even meaning, either side has just a good a chance of winning as the other, no massive terrain advantage, etc.  In siege, one side always has a massive advantage. 

IMO, you should have battle and siege servers together on one game mode.  Open field battles (maps without buildings) and sieges (basically the same types of villages, castles and cities we see in strategus, and maybe some of the other battle server maps that are played on the battle server, but should really be siege maps).

A conquest game type would be what most people would suggest, I do believe.  I personally would rather see a strategus type gameplay brought to the public servers.  Maybe have like 15-30 minute rounds for sieges or battles with 500 tickets on each side.  Something like that maybe?

Havoc prefers the company of men.

[dontgothere]

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Tretter_KUTT   Knights Union of the Tundra Territories   

   Oxrock_KUTT   -See him in 14-15+ weight armor, I think he has a chance to be strength

   Acehole_The_Butthole_KUTT   - Not now, but on his polearm/glaive or w/e a month or two ago was pure strength

   Negga_KUTT   - Don't think so, don't remember him

   TurmoilTom_Metapod_KUTT   - On his 1h and practice sword. He changes so much you can still count him

   DooM_KUTT   - I think he is balanced or leaning strength

   TugBOAT_KUTT    -Balanced or leaning strength

   Tanken_Psyduck_KUTT   You just said you were strength

   Xeen_Rowdy_Roddy_Piper_KUTT   -Xeen made a name for himself as a strength user. Can't count him out because of a simple respec/retire for a few months

   KbW_Adrian_KUTT   - Not Strength

   Snackbar_KUTT   -Idk what he is, but putting his name anyways.

   Loki_Formerly_Player_KUTT   -Same as above

   Upper_KUTT   - Same as above

   Wolfgang_Squirtle_KUTT   - This guy was tanking hits in peasant gear, makes me suspicious

   Para_KUTT   - Don't think he is

   KillerofFlowers_KUTT   I think he is balanced now, but I think he usually runs strength most of the time.

   RJ_Electabuzz_KUTT   RJ just said he wasn't

   Slim_KUTT   - Probably not

   SHORT_SIR_KUTT   -Forget what gear he used, maybe

   Crapbar_Earthteam_KUTT   -Alts

   Turtlemeat_KUTT      

   Phoenix_KUTT      

   Rits_Kutt   - I think he might be strength, forget.

   Crispy_KUTT   same with him, or balanced.

   Apollo_Kadabra_KUTT   -Alt I think

   NormTheNorman_Earthteam_KUTT   - Saw him on today or yesterday, seems balanced

   Sir_Caramel_Macchiato_KUTT- Alt?

   Faint_Mew_KUTT   - Just by the name, I don't think so.

   Zocoe_KUTT   Nope

   Alf0nso_KUTT   Don't think so

   Mr_Pink_Snorlax_KUTT   -Balanced or agi

Then there's a slew of alts like that Robot gimmick guy or whatever. Some might not be rolling str now (21 or more str).

I think siege is pretty easy myself. Sometimes I enjoy it there, but I've barely even been on there the last 5 months now.

[Goretooth]

better newer games  that cost too much on release.

[Xeen]

Wait, what?  I made a name for myself as a strength user?  I've used something different almost every gen I've ever done.  I mixed my pikeman build up regularly.  Really, the things this community comes up with.

[jasonjay543]

Are you surprised? cRPG is starting to show its age. Battle has always been much more populated than siege and, if you ask me, siege is alot more fun with 20-50 people. (P.S. bring back ladders to siege)

[oprah_winfrey]

Wait, what?  I made a name for myself as a strength user?  I've used something different almost every gen I've ever done.  I mixed my pikeman build up regularly.  Really, the things this community comes up with.

It doesn't matter if you aren't always a strength build, when I think of you (and I would say that most people would agree), I think strength build pikeman in plate armor or plated charger bump cav in plate.

Also, I have seen para playing lately, but prior to retiring at level 33, wasn't he a str shielder in full plate with a plate shield and a crossbow?