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Re: Proposal ,Shik请进,一堆建议!!只有你看的懂
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2012, 12:19:30 am »
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Re: Proposal ,Shik请进,一堆建议!!只有你看的懂
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2012, 01:20:12 am »
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Re: Proposal ,Shik请进,一堆建议!!只有你看的懂
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2012, 02:23:14 am »
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"Shield restrain bow and arrow

A long rod weapons restrain cavalry

Cavalry restrain Shield"


Chinese wisdom !

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Re: Proposal ,Shik请进,一堆建议!!只有你看的懂
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2012, 03:02:56 am »
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Re: Proposal ,Shik请进,一堆建议!!只有你看的懂
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2012, 03:47:01 am »
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Someone drag Shik in here already.
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Re: Proposal ,Shik请进,一堆建议!!只有你看的懂
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2012, 04:00:56 am »
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This really isn't a terrible idea, if I'm understanding our Chinese friend here correctly.

If shields were buffed so that a player could equip a shield without shield skill (instead meeting some strength requirement), archers wouldn't be nearly as irritating to melee.  In turn, archers could keep cavalry in check because they wouldn't need to be turned into children firing nerf bows. 

To use a shield a player would either have to meet a strength requirement to use it with no weapon OR meet a shield skill requirement to use it with a weapon.  Perhaps 1h could even get their long awaited, long demanded damage/speed/whatever buff to compensate for poles & 2h getting to carry a shield free of charge. 


edit: Better wording
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Re: Proposal ,Shik请进,一堆建议!!只有你看的懂
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2012, 04:10:24 am »
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1 骑枪本来就该是一击必杀的,为什么削弱?

2 弓被削弱的实在太厉害!!起码弓要有弩的一半威力。怕远程太多的话完全可以开放盾牌!不用加盾牌点不就好了嘛? 普通箭头射布衣应该在2箭内。射中等铠甲应该在3到5箭内。射厚重铠甲可以设置为射不穿。而使用穿甲箭头

3 刀盾骑兵在马上低速和无速的伤害度实在太夸张。 马上用刀应该比步战用刀减少伤害度。除非马在奔跑中有速度加成!


所谓的平衡如果建立在削弱远程等职业上只会让很大一部分人不高兴。完全可以开放免加点盾牌。盾牌能克制远程 长杆武器能克制骑兵 历史上就是这样的!!


4 非常感谢目前加入的中国装备,这些装备是中国宋朝时期的装备,也就是蒙古帝国时代的装备。 请加入蒙古铠甲!! 整个远东历史上分量最大的民族莫过于中国 蒙古 日本  请完善此三国的装备。目前蒙古各类铠甲太少!!

5 人物头部模型是有问题的!难道作者一直没发现吗??自从他去掉了新版本的人物脸部造型系统后,人物的眼球就比原来大很多了,非常明显!!请改掉。另外能否增加AD1257里的那些人物皮肤?

6 如果弓箭的伤害度能符合历史,而且能开放免加点数盾牌。 那只会让步兵集中队伍。 历史上就是这么打的。 

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Re: Proposal ,Shik请进,一堆建议!!只有你看的懂
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2012, 04:40:49 am »
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This really isn't a terrible idea, if I'm understanding our Chinese friend here correctly.

If shields were buffed so that a player could equip a shield without shield skill (instead meeting some strength requirement), archers wouldn't be nearly as irritating to melee.  In turn, archers could keep cavalry in check because they wouldn't need to be turned into children firing nerf bows. 

To use a shield a player would either have to meet a strength requirement to use it with no weapon OR meet a shield skill requirement to use it with a weapon.  Perhaps 1h could even get their long awaited, long demanded damage/speed/whatever buff to compensate for poles & 2h getting to carry a shield free of charge. 


edit: Better wording


预想一下开放免费盾牌后的情况。    步兵会有更多的集中冲锋,盾牌手+长枪手。将成为战场主力。

盾牌厚度与重量相关,可减少熟练和跑动。双手剑士在近战中可选择丢弃盾牌

Envision what the open free shield. Infantry there will be more concentrated assault, shields hand + pikemen. Will become battleground main.

Shield thickness and weight, can reduce the skilled and running. DE shield hands swordsman melee
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Re: Proposal ,Shik请进,一堆建议!!只有你看的懂
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2012, 04:44:54 am »
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"Shield restrain bow and arrow

A long rod weapons restrain cavalry

Cavalry restrain Shield"


Chinese wisdom !

中国古代战争就是长杆武器旁边配一个刀盾手。在M&B中这是一个非常有效的无敌组合

The ancient Chinese war is next to the long pole weapons with a knife shield hand. This unbeatable combination is a very effective M & B
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Re: Proposal ,Shik请进,一堆建议!!只有你看的懂
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2012, 04:52:47 am »
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7 削弱骑兵和骑射最好的办法是限制控马!现实中马是不会原地360度转圈的。现在马跑动时可以左晃又晃。那是不可能的。骑射就能靠这个方法躲避射来的弓箭。

万分感谢!!!!

7 weaken the cavalry riding and shooting the best way is to limit the control the horse!The Ma in reality is not in place 360 degrees around. The now horse running left Akira and Akira. It is impossible. Archery will be able to rely on this method to avoid the arrows from the air.
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Re: Proposal ,Shik请进,一堆建议!!只有你看的懂
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2012, 04:59:57 am »
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When the Chinese are giving feedback, you know shit has gone down.
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Re: Proposal ,Shik请进,一堆建议!!只有你看的懂
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2012, 05:31:41 am »
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8 请不要强制使职业单一化。目前弓箭手的熟练又低了!!为什么??蒙古骑兵身上穿着铠甲能射能砍能步战。为什么不能身兼多职????弓箭手就必定只能穿布衣???

9 马匹应该可以携带装备。装备格可以增加4个。

8 Do not force the occupational homogeneity. Low skilled archers! ! Why? ? Mongol horsemen wearing armor shot can cut can step warfare. Why can not I wear so many hats? ? ? ? Archers must only wear commoner? ? ?

9 horses should be able to carry equipment. Equipment grid can be increased by four.
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Re: Proposal ,Shik请进,一堆建议!!只有你看的懂
« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2012, 06:50:22 am »
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Oh my god, did i just read two pages of completely bullshit?
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Re: Proposal ,Shik请进,一堆建议!!只有你看的懂
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2012, 07:17:00 am »
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Re: Proposal ,Shik请进,一堆建议!!只有你看的懂
« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2012, 08:34:08 am »
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