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Re: 0.2.9.0
« Reply #525 on: November 02, 2012, 02:28:23 am »
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They really fucked up archery big time.

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Re: 0.2.9.0
« Reply #526 on: November 02, 2012, 02:35:43 am »
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Re: 0.2.9.0
« Reply #527 on: November 02, 2012, 02:41:56 am »
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Last patch makes BLACKBOW GTX M&B....
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Re: 0.2.9.0
« Reply #528 on: November 02, 2012, 06:55:01 am »
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Questions to devs. MW Great Lance has +2 to speed. How its works? Is GL "reload" faster? Or maybe it decreases time after you press x and before GL take into the "firing position"? Is polearm wpf improve anything in using GL?
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Re: 0.2.9.0
« Reply #529 on: November 02, 2012, 10:04:47 am »
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Questions to devs. MW Great Lance has +2 to speed. How its works? Is GL "reload" faster? Or maybe it decreases time after you press x and before GL take into the "firing position"? Is polearm wpf improve anything in using GL?

Think its always 5 seconds on cooldown.  Think its just a meaningless buff =/
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Re: 0.2.9.0
« Reply #530 on: November 02, 2012, 10:26:11 am »
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I am surprised that sometimes Great Lance doesn't kill anyone in couch...true story

couching no longer kills heavy str stacker in 1 hit no more............

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Re: 0.2.9.0
« Reply #531 on: November 02, 2012, 10:40:02 am »
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I am surprised that sometimes Great Lance doesn't kill anyone in couch...true story

couching no longer kills heavy str stacker in 1 hit no more............

Even with 75p ? What the hell

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Re: 0.2.9.0
« Reply #532 on: November 02, 2012, 10:49:51 am »
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Even with 75p ? What the hell

Because overall couching damage got nerfed, so it's not actually a 75p couch seeing I survived great lance couches in 18 body armor and 5 IF :D

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Re: 0.2.9.0
« Reply #533 on: November 02, 2012, 10:58:46 am »
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Because overall couching damage got nerfed, so it's not actually a 75p couch seeing I survived great lance couches in 18 body armor and 5 IF :D

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You know, a couched lance is melee. You can dodge the lance and hit the horse/rider with most melee setups.

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Re: 0.2.9.0
« Reply #534 on: November 02, 2012, 11:07:49 am »
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Best solution, like just mentioned in irc, is to let arrows weigh a ton. Pewpew will be just fine, kiting almost impossibru and hybrids can just drop their bow and get into melee.

But i guess that would be way too easy to do, rather take the hard and dirty path.

I'll repeat

Quote from: Shik
<Shik> ath nerf reverted for next patch

However I wouldn't be surprised if there was an increase to the weight of arrows shortly following though. It fixes the problem and I believe it's a reasonable compromise for not murdering our builds! :)

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A bit of behind the scenes as well:

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<Meow> we call him the italion stallion
<Meow> or il duce

I know it's difficult to believe but it appears that is was an agreeable solution.
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Re: 0.2.9.0
« Reply #535 on: November 02, 2012, 11:58:51 am »
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You know, a couched lance is melee. You can dodge the lance and hit the horse/rider with most melee setups.

in my book of awesome cav lancer is not melee, it's a scrub's shortcut to free kills

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Re: 0.2.9.0
« Reply #536 on: November 02, 2012, 12:03:26 pm »
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in my book of awesome cav lancer is not melee, it's a scrub's shortcut to free kills

Despite the fact one can't consistently get any kill with it except by ninjaing. I would call 2h or pole the scrub's shortcut to free kills. So many people turn their backs to you in the confusion of melee.

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Re: 0.2.9.0
« Reply #537 on: November 02, 2012, 12:07:26 pm »
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I'll repeat

However I wouldn't be surprised if there was an increase to the weight of arrows shortly following though. It fixes the problem and I believe it's a reasonable compromise for not murdering our builds! :)

Thank you Shik, we'll hold you to your word, even if "The Italian" finds out.

A bit of behind the scenes as well:

I know it's difficult to believe but it appears that is was an agreeable solution.

Ah, okay, nice. There was a lot of talking going on and i missed a lot, just like this piece of hope *_*

What i still find very unfair is the fact, that the community is being left in the dark considering recent changes or what will be done about the archery-thing. Not everyone has the time to be on irc 24/7.

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Re: 0.2.9.0
« Reply #538 on: November 02, 2012, 12:10:27 pm »
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Despite the fact one can't consistently get any kill with it except by ninjaing. I would call 2h or pole the scrub's shortcut to free kills. So many people turn their backs to you in the confusion of melee.

Except that with cav you have double life (if heavy horse more like three lifes), ability to ride away from anything with great speed, doing unblockable crap like bump lancing/slashing, and doing awesome pierce damage. Oh yeah when you get dehorsed you're also a footman just like any other non-cav footman, just 3 stat points less.

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Re: 0.2.9.0
« Reply #539 on: November 02, 2012, 12:32:53 pm »
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Except that with cav you have double life (if heavy horse more like three lifes), ability to ride away from anything with great speed, doing unblockable crap like bump lancing/slashing, and doing awesome pierce damage. Oh yeah when you get dehorsed you're also a footman just like any other non-cav footman, just 3 stat points less.


With cav you don't increase you own HP, and you either sit on something that can be oneshot by any decent build, or sit on something that feels like a supertanker, even though you have to catch powerboats that copulated with mosquitos. Either way it's a big ass target for any non-blind archer. Also, losing your horse automatically makes you take a nap on the ground (the longest stun in the game), long enough for some people to get 3 free hits. So when you get dehorsed you are a normal footman like every other footman except that in average you took two solid hits, so most often you are a dead normal footman. Moreover, sure you can run away with great speed, but during the century you spend accelerating, you can easily get hit and ganked. Not even mentioning the fact that when a human stands in front of a stopped horse, the horse cannot push the human, it's like a brick wall. Finally, the "awesome" pierce damage was already not enough to kill some archers with full speed bonus before this patch. Now it's more like "pityful".

If you try to block a lancer, you are doing it the very wrong way. No matter the attack he's planning (btw all cav moves with any horse and any build are telegraphed 2 hours before being executed), there's always a way you can dodge and hit. Things like bump-"something" are the easiest way to get killed for a cav, cause they have 0 defense while doing it. If even with a 2h you get killed by cav in duels I really don't know what is wrong with you.



btw even if I sound mad I am not that much. I abandoned cav. It is just irritating to witness such ignorance.
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