"how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay

[karasu]

so many watched people here haha

And sadly so few muted. 

[Bjord]

about 50% of all that text is not relevant to your essay, but rather excuses to your behavior and telling admins what to do.
I personally feel that you should rewrite it.

You're right about one thing, it should be 100% on-topic and I'll start rewriting some stuff now and later make a new post with the off-topic stuff.

EDIT: Putting the off-topic stuff in this post with a spoiler.

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However, if we start banning everyone who says "shut up" or has a banter with their friends,  we're going to run out of people fast. I may have insinuated that I sort of do not agree with the title of my essay, so I'll spill the beans; I won't contest the reason that got me the ban in the first place, but I was unjustly muted after calling Great Khans "GAY KHANS" and later telling TzarofRushya to "shut up", which was not a serious "offence". What Tennenoth didn't know here is that I am on good terms with both of the parties mentioned. I can however see, that my track record "muddies" the water as Tennenoth put it. I still believe that if you think I offended someone, it is better that you ask them and not act on your own assumption that my intention was to harass or insult. I'd just like to mention this, so that people reading this topic can refrain from assuming that I was banned for harassment (which I wasn't, and Tennenoth even confirmed this when I asked him for the reason of the essay ban - I asked him if it was my talking back and calling him pathetic in admin chat that resulted in me being essay ban - again, this is something he has already confirmed). It is merely the title of my essay ban, since I was on a so called "probation" period of 6 months where I would stay out of kinngrimm's hair.

What I missed in mine and Tennenoth's agreement though, was clearer boundaries of what I was allowed to do and not do. Last Friday evening was very absurd for me, because I was very agitated by the mute. I didn't understand why I was muted, and when I asked for the reason, Tennenoth merely replied something along the lines of "You know why.". Well, I didn't know why, that's why I asked. It got a bit out of hand and while I don't agree with the mute at all and while I have my own opinions about Tennenoth's adminship, I will sincerely apologize for my abusive manner when speaking back. I hope that the fact that I was very upset can be established and be taken into account.

I'm still waiting for the logs so that we can clear up this mess for once and all.

So to summarize:

I was warned for my actions, and ceased them immediately. A bit over a month later, I have an unfortunate encounter with Tennenoth who for some reason is giving me a lot of attention and get muted for reasons I did not understand nor agree with. I then proceed to talk back and a few times I display very abusive behaviour in the admin chat. This was what lead to my ban, and here I am today, writing the essay. I hope that everything can be clarified, so that the mute-ordeal is sorted out. But everything after that, I take full responsibility of and I hope that I communicated this well enough. As I said, I am not a bad person and harassment is a really shitty thing to do.

[BD_Baby_Wolf]

You're right about one thing, it should be 100% on-topic and I'll start rewriting some stuff now and later make a new post with the off-topic stuff.

EDIT: Putting the off-topic stuff in this post with a spoiler.

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i would advise you to contact Tenni to lower the word count, cos 1k is a bit too much i think.

[Bjord]

i would advise you to contact Tenni to lower the word count, visitors can't see pics , please register or login
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For me or for others?

Anyway, I'm done so it's not a problem anymore.

[F i n]

Is calling someone attentionwhore harassment?

[Bjord]

Is calling someone attentionwhore harassement?

If you're referring to me I removed the post lol, didn't realize I had already notified that I was done.

[F i n]

Hihihi just curious

[Everkistus]

Trolling is as much a part of the internet as TCP/IP. Good unban essay, shitty reason for ban.

[kinngrimm]

I didn't vote as i don't see the point anymore.

You asked that someone who has a problem with you would come and talk to you personally. Why?
Not like these problems were created by them, but in my opinion by you so your problems reflected onto them. You make other people feel bad. So again why would they go and talk to you? If at all you should look them up where to find them, go to them and apologize. Again like in other cases, you seem to be an intelligent guy from what you wrote, still your actions when you got mad makes this essay mute in my opinion.

I can't consent Kinngrimms behaviour. The admins have been very indulgent to his complaint imo. If he is getting offended by Bjord and takes it with that sensitivity this is simply not the right place for him to be. Harassment in the Internet is far beyond what Kinngrimm has experienced from Bjord.

My behaviour? Read Bjord essay to know with what i had to deal and read my ban request

When i did that request , Bjord didn't get banned. Instead he got another chance. This ban here isn't about me being harrassed, but yet another person. Meanwhile others are taking on your cause Bjord, you can be proud, isn't that what you hoped for?. Curtis and others now starting to call me queengrimm *sigh*. Am i sensitive? Ask my friends on ts which call me whatever they want me to call, it all takes place in good atmosphere, but they are not trying to penetrate my butt like others. I never claimed to be the best or one of the best players and objectively out of many reasons i am not. I am just another player who clicks some buttons. Why is it ok that people call me or others any names and that on a constant base? Do you do that with all the people you know or even with people you don't know in Reallife? Why are people always making the excuse only because we are here in the internet, that automaticly gives you permission to behave these ways? I am 36 and can stand a beating, i have had enough troubles in my life to get a thick skin. That then again doesn't make me a robot and i guess that's the case for most people. Am i sensitive, sure, aren't you? If not that is your problem not mine.

EDIT: on a site note, i had done a year ago already a suggestion and repeatedly mentioned it, that a simple solution to all of this would be to implement a client site muting. Something what is stored on your PC and doesn't vanish with reconnects, so you don't need to listen to my crap i say in game or that of others. Would lessen the admins task. This isn't the best solution as it cuts of communication between some people, but in some cases it is the only solution as some people are just spilling poison.

[F i n]

so many watched people here haha

Now im watched too. God damn beer.

[Son Of Odin]

Trolling is as much a part of the internet as TCP/IP. Good unban essay, shitty reason for ban.

Colonel Steele has spoken . Bjord deserves to be unbanned imo. Good essay and all.

[Bjord]

I didn't vote as i don't see the point anymore.

You asked that someone who has a problem with you would come and talk to you personally. Why?
Not like these problems were created by them, but in my opinion by you so your problems reflected onto them. You make other people feel bad. So again why would they go and talk to you? If at all you should look them up where to find them, go to them and apologize. Again like in other cases, you seem to be an intelligent guy from what you wrote, still your actions when you got mad makes this essay mute in my opinion.
My behaviour? Read Bjord essay to know with what i had to deal and read my ban request

When i did that request , Bjord didn't get banned. Instead he got another chance. This ban here isn't about me being harrassed, but yet another person. Meanwhile others are taking on your cause Bjord, you can be proud, isn't that what you hoped for?. Curtis and others now starting to call me queengrimm *sigh*. Am i sensitive? Ask my friends on ts which call me whatever they want me to call, it all takes place in good atmosphere, but they are not trying to penetrate my butt like others. I never claimed to be the best or one of the best players and objectively out of many reasons i am not. I am just another player who clicks some buttons. Why is it ok that people call me or others any names and that on a constant base? Do you do that with all the people you know or even with people you don't know in Reallife? Why are people always making the excuse only because we are here in the internet, that automaticly gives you permission to behave these ways? I am 36 and can stand a beating, i have had enough troubles in my life to get a thick skin. That then again doesn't make me a robot and i guess that's the case for most people. Am i sensitive, sure, aren't you? If not that is your problem not mine.

EDIT: on a site note, i had done a year ago already a suggestion and repeatedly mentioned it, that a simple solution to all of this would be to implement a client site muting. Something what is stored on your PC and doesn't vanish with reconnects, so you don't need to listen to my crap i say in game or that of others. Would lessen the admins task. This isn't the best solution as it cuts of communication between some people, but in some cases it is the only solution as some people are just spilling poison.

I'd like to give you a worthy reply but I feel it would not make a difference. Even after my essay and even after you basically got me essay banned (which is what you hoped for in the beginning, to get me banned), you still seem adamant about removing me from this community. In my opinion, I have been very mindful of my interaction with you in-game, but you on the other hand are still holding a grudge.

So why should I care about your feelings, after I've already gotten out of your hair and after you're still being inconsiderate of mine? Frankly, I think you can suit yourself when people start calling you "queengrimm" (am I violating the probation if I say I laughed a bit? Curtis is a pretty funny guy, I couldn't help it. ). I haven't parodied your name since that ban thread you made, so IMO you're going way out of your way to once again voice a bitter and resentful opinion.

Get over yourself, please.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Don't get all the love for the essay itself, even SpookIslands essay was better than this.

[BlindGuy]

1. No fucks are given about SpookIsland. Stop spamming unrelated shit in loads of threads just to mention SpookIsland. We dont care and never will.

2. Essay for poor.

3. Reason for ban was a joke. "Please helwp meeee, a nasty mans on the internets called me names and now my bumbum is hurty!"

4. Free Bjord or he will continue to talk about his favorite thing, himself.

5. Kinngrimm really so butthurt, dont make yourself a target, everything you do ingame in guaranteed to get you grief, from your holyer than thou attitude, your misplaced self confidence, your abuse nonexistant ping combined with almost invisible spampick, your lack of footwork, ppl are gonna mock you, just mute chat if YOU get offended, in a game where we destroy one another with steel and wood brutality, why should words be censored when game content is NOT child friendly. (Obviously rascism etc is not the same, thats just ignorance)

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Pretty sure any ping bellow 40 gets a delay until it's on the speed of 40 so bitching about Kinngrimms low ping is a bit silly when everyone with 0-50 ping get pretty much the exact same experience.

BTW: Bjord is to gay to be SpookIsland, he also sucks to hard at writing essays.