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Which option do you feel is best?

Lower the tax to 2%
70 (44.6%)
Split the tax between both parties, 2.5% for both
41 (26.1%)
None, it's fine how it is
46 (29.3%)

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Voting closed: September 26, 2012, 11:25:35 am

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Offline Kafein

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Re: Lower the Marketplace Tax
« Reply #45 on: September 20, 2012, 05:26:18 pm »
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just add all the taxes paid to the lottery to avoid a gold sink and have a formula so those who pay alot of tax in a week get free lotto tickets.

example: 50000 gold in tax = 50 tickets

That would kinda defeat the purpose of the tax.

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Re: Lower the Marketplace Tax
« Reply #46 on: September 21, 2012, 04:03:21 am »
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That would kinda defeat the purpose of the tax.

1. How? you provided no points or basis for your thesis
2. the purpose of the tax is to reduce market profits and the increasing price of heirlooms(which it would still achieve)
3. Tax returns
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Re: Lower the Marketplace Tax
« Reply #47 on: September 21, 2012, 04:50:21 am »
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It would actually just be an advantage for the traders, who already make a shitload of money and furthermore decrease the chance to win the lottery for everyone because the amount of tickets bought would be TOO DAMN HIGH!
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Re: Lower the Marketplace Tax
« Reply #48 on: September 21, 2012, 04:58:28 am »
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I never read such a sad, self-aggrandizing post in my life. You know what the sad thing about your entire post is? You actually think you've accomplished something. Allow me to give you some clarity - it means fuck all that you have anything in a video game. You are not like rich people IRL, they actually did something meaningful whereas what you did was essentially try really, really hard in a video game. Invested, as you say, months of planning just to succeed in a video game as opposed to months of planning to succeed in something important like, oh I don't know - real life? Touting it around and being proud of it? Jesus fucking Christ man, get some perspective.

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Re: Lower the Marketplace Tax
« Reply #49 on: September 21, 2012, 12:08:40 pm »
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I never read such a sad, self-aggrandizing post in my life. You know what the sad thing about your entire post is? You actually think you've accomplished something. Allow me to give you some clarity - it means fuck all that you have anything in a video game. You are not like rich people IRL, they actually did something meaningful whereas what you did was essentially try really, really hard in a video game. Invested, as you say, months of planning just to succeed in a video game as opposed to months of planning to succeed in something important like, oh I don't know - real life? Touting it around and being proud of it? Jesus fucking Christ man, get some perspective.

Your accomplishment is a collection of pixels. Congratulations.

Awesome case of jelly. FYI this is a videogame forum.

1. How? you provided no points or basis for your thesis
2. the purpose of the tax is to reduce market profits and the increasing price of heirlooms(which it would still achieve)
3. Tax returns

The purpose of the tax is to bring money out of the economy. It's the most effective gold sink atm. Reducing heirloom prices is just a byproduct of this.
Giving back part of this tax money is exactly the same as just reducing the tax altogether, with the exception that lottery tickets will give a minority of players a sudden boost of money. Concentrating a majority of the money in fewer hands drives the prices higher. Even though the lottery brings a lot of gold out of the economy, it makes a few people able to spend a lot more.

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Re: Lower the Marketplace Tax
« Reply #50 on: September 23, 2012, 03:55:57 am »
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been playnig on and off for 3 years and I am broke while other got millions? man i feel sucky. :(
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Re: Lower the Marketplace Tax
« Reply #51 on: September 23, 2012, 01:28:31 pm »
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Just leave the tax as it is.
Since the start of the new lottery and the marketplace tax prices did go down and thats a good thing.

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Re: Lower the Marketplace Tax
« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2012, 02:40:20 pm »
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It feels like the number of marketplace transactions are not as many as they used to be.
I assume that wasn't the intention when taxes got implemented.

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Re: Lower the Marketplace Tax
« Reply #53 on: September 23, 2012, 07:27:39 pm »
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It feels like the number of marketplace transactions are not as many as they used to be.
I assume that wasn't the intention when taxes got implemented.

That's what a tax does. A bit like medication side effects.

There are possible goldsinks without taxing transactions though. Goodies like titles and banners already consume some money. The lottery works quite well too.

A tax acting over time independently would reduce the amount of money in the system too. Say if everybody lost 0.01% of their gold each day at midnight, that would be a very good goldsink, yet without stifling the marketplace's activity like the transaction tax does.

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Re: Lower the Marketplace Tax
« Reply #54 on: September 23, 2012, 07:32:32 pm »
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Re: Lower the Marketplace Tax
« Reply #55 on: September 24, 2012, 02:14:23 pm »
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been playnig on and off for 3 years and I am broke while other got millions? man i feel sucky. :(

Well, I've got millions but as Swaggart said it's just a bunch of pixels and has no value for me at this moment because I'm not playing the mod anymore.

Was fun trying to achieve that goal (getting as much gold as possible). Would probably stop playing a lot earlier if not for gold stockpiling mania of mine. cRPG has really become that stale, I'm afraid.

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Re: Lower the Marketplace Tax
« Reply #56 on: September 24, 2012, 02:20:22 pm »
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\You are not like rich people IRL, they actually did something meaningful whereas what you did was essentially try really, really hard in a video game.\

True, being rich IRL means something, in videogame means nothing.

But to become rich IRL you need to sacrifice a lot, while to become rich in cRPG it took 5 minutes spent on marketplace and playing with a goal in mind. And that was actually more fun, than playing the game without any goal at all.

You see, out of 2500 hours or more I've spent on this game during last two years, I had most fun playing in gold making gear with so called "gimped" builds. So it's not a loss really, nor trying to hard. Playing like that made me better player and actually was a challenge and I like challenging video games. If I was heavy cav I would probably quit cRPG after few months.

Being Weren's sidekick on Staffmistress alt was the most fun I've ever had in cRPG, really.