Cmpx, you know why I am asking for it. Come here and see my suggestion.

[Erasmas]

Yes. Deal with it, sucker. What do you expect? Shooting people with 80+ pierce damage from afar, then switch to a shield and backpeddal to safety? If you wanna be high tier xbowman, get some skills in melee so you can defend yourself with 1h.

No need for insults here. Did I offend you in any manner? Actually, I expect the answer....

If you want to be high tier 2H, do you need to be a good shooter? And, I will deal with it if necessary, no worries. It is just the fact that I was always allergic to the forced education...   

[Zisa]

We can't publish expected changes, simply because we don't have a finished list yet. But apparently that doesn't stop people from making things up and whining about them.

For those saying that this is just meant to remediate the failure of upkeep: I have no idea what you're talking about. Upkeep was meant to make mid-tier weapons and especially mid-tier armor more attractive, and it succeeded at that. This change tackles a different problem ("jack of all trades, master of all" hybrids) and is by no means replacing upkeep.

PS: if you're trying to influence the dev team's opinions, you might want to try with constructive criticism instead of whine. The latter just doesn't work.

I am concerned, good sir, that any sort of 3 slotting (Keeping a straight face) would have collateral effects of nerfing - namely my pure polearm build glaive + elegant poleaxe. I would mention other pure builds that may be affected, but let us be honest, I don't give a shit if it doesn't affect me.

I would humbly suggest some additions...

Mounted crossbows should take up another slot due to the saddle dildo that must be keeping them in place while they reload.

great swords and pikers need another slot for the cue stick chalk they need to make those 'english' lol stabs.

[Konrax]

I see why this would be a nerf to your current build Erasmas but with a dedicated xbow build you can really make something decent still. Like said above horse xbowman is still an option, otherwise something like this is pretty nice when you look at the build. If you want to be different you could spec 2h and use the Langes Messier which *may* only take up one slot still.

    * Strength: 15
    * Agility: 24
    * Hit points: 54

    * Converted: 8
    * Ironflesh: 2
    * Power Strike: 5
    * Athletics: 8
    * Weapon Master: 8

    * One Handed: 137
    * Crossbow: 130

Speed to get to where you want to go, solid long range damage and accuracy, and the wpf proficiency to effectively use a 1h weapon without a shield when its needed.

Looks pretty solid to me to be honest, in order to get the shield you would lose out on 1h prof, speed, and range damage.

[Erasmas]

It does look solid, but it also shows something else: in the result of this patch hybrids will be able (or forced to:-) to respec and have more wpf points available for other profs. Interesting and, I guess, contrary to the assumed purpose.

[Noble Crassius]

  sounds like an idea to try out.

Now since we have pretty much dedicated xbow n archer gear can we pwwwwz have passive shields? I would imagine something like this could be done for dedicated xbowmen

Dedicated xbow equip
heavy xbow
heavy xbow
Bolts
Passive shield

Rawr epicness

[Polobow]

sounds like an idea to try out.

Now since we have pretty much dedicated xbow n archer gear can we pwwwwz have passive shields? I would imagine something like this could be done for dedicated xbowmen

Dedicated xbow equip
heavy xbow
heavy xbow
Bolts
Passive shield

Rawr epicness

You are doing the reverse the patch is trying to do. If you want a passive shield, get better armour.

[MadJackMcMad]

This is ... severely limiting for xbowmen.  The 2 slot 2h I agree with but this is a bit much.

[Erasmas]

Yep. Unless you take regular, light or hunting xbow.... Life sucks. And the game is getting less medieval.

[Nogar]

i have no problems with it 

[Dravic]

Can you manual block, Nogar?

[Cup1d]

Well, the only real issue I see is that you can't even play the classic vanilla Warband crossbowman -- board shield, 1h and xbow. You have to have both a small shield and a weak xbow to make it possible to have those three item types and a stack of bolts. So that's kind of a bummer. I guess it's better than nerfing xbows outright, though.

also you can't play classic vanilla nord archer (longbow+2H axe), vaegir archer (warbow+voulge), rhodoc sharpshooter (siege crossbow+spiked staff+shield), swadian sharpshooter (heavy crossbow+voulge), mercenary crossbowman (crossbow+pavise+boar spear), sea raider (longbow+shield+axe), sarranid mamluke (lance+shield+scimitar+morningstar) and many many more.

[Dravic]

Just shot out all the ammo from 1 stack of steel bolts in less than 4 minutes of round.

Please, at least increase amount of ammo per stack of bolts, if we are going to have only 1 stack.

[MadJackMcMad]

Question, are bows going to take up 2 slots also?

[Zisa]

Just shot out all the ammo from 1 stack of steel bolts in less than 4 minutes of round.

Please, at least increase amount of ammo per stack of bolts, if we are going to have only 1 stack.

near 4 minutes? that sounds right.. plenty of ammo.

[Nogar]

look
i use xbow with 1h and i have no problems with it...
if you have problems with it its your problem lol

and of course i can ''manual block''
i just suck at it (with my ping and everything)
also xbow is not a proper hybrid weapon... i think

but i agree with increasing the ammo per stack