What the hell is up with the upkeep system?

[peter_afca7]

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[Tears of Destiny]

My suggestion will prevent archers from being nerfed by decreasing the number of archers by incresing upkeep.

First off, you have a really funny definition of nerf if "increasing upkeep" does not count as one.

Secondly, people will still play archer and will merely use the "cheaper" gear since most people roll archer due to a need to hunt the high numbers of cavalry (at least for NA).

I enjoy melee substantially more then archer, I am even good enough with my shielder to be very competitive, and alright enough with a polearm to kill a bit more then I die from more often then not, but I roll archer because of the stupid high levels of cavalry (Hence my 24/21 build).

[Wrangham]

I was going to post some of the lamentations of a horse archer last week but respec'd back to melee instead. So here's my data from a ~31,857 gold setup as a horse archer (Light armor, Rouncey, Arabian Cav sword, Yumi, 1 set Tatar, 1 set regular arrows.)


Gold ------------ XP
528,679 = [did not note XP total] (Bought appropriate gear and respec'd into horse archer.)
525,958 = 1 891 680
527,391 = 1 979 040
525,832 = 2 065 280
524,062 = 2 170 560
520,452 = 2 226 560 (Upset with losing money. Exchanged Arabian Cav Sword for one of the cheaper 1H swords.)
518,624 = 2 243 360


As others have pointed out, high PD and ~50 1H proficiency increased repairs significantly but even if you double arrow upkeep I was still well under the "sustainable" figures posted by many people in this thread. I don't know about game/item balance but it is very obvious that playing a moderately-geared horse archer is unsustainable without consistent valor.