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Don't ever add stamina to the game
« on: August 23, 2012, 04:55:09 pm »
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The last thing this mod needs is another buff to cav riders.
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Re: Don't ever add stamina to the game
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2012, 04:56:25 pm »
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Stamina for horses?
And for the riders ofc (holding a lance horizontally should drain stamina with the speed of light.
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Re: Don't ever add stamina to the game
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2012, 04:58:16 pm »
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Stamina for horses?
And for the riders ofc (holding a lance horizontally should drain stamina with the speed of light.
just a horrible and unnecessary idea all round

besides, horses are built for endurance

if they want to change anything involving horses, make them take collision damage when you hit trees/buildings going 15mph, and if  the horse dies doing this the rider should take damage as well
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Re: Don't ever add stamina to the game
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2012, 05:04:09 pm »
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I think stamina would be good, but at this point I'd rather not see it added seeing warband is years old, and m&b even older and they haven't had this since inception. 

But to play devil's advocate I had these ideas regarding stamina:

*Infantry doesn't lose stamina from running but it regenerates slower while running versus standing still.
*Infantry loses stamina when they swing their weapon, the heavier the weapon, the higher the drain on stamina. 
*Both Strength (getting less tired from the weight of the weapon) along with Weapon Master (learning how to properly swing the weapon) would help negate some of the loss to stamina every swing.

*Horses would have stamina built in where at a medium "trot" they wouldn't lost stamina, but would regain slower than if they were stopped or walking.  At their fastest gallop they would start to lose stamina, somewhat similar to Red Dead Redemption.
*Swinging a weapon from horse would drain your stamina similar to being on the ground and swinging a weapon, couching lances would lower your stamina until it was drained, and then your lance would pop up (like it currently does after you couch for 6 seconds or so).
*Holding your weapon chambered would also slowly drain stamina

I'm not sure how to balance ranged with stamina, but it would be similar to melee, when you draw your bow back it would start to lower your stamina, and after say 4 or 5 seconds it would be completely drained and you would have to release the string.  It would have to regenerate pretty quickly however if you were stationary, I'd say faster than infantry maybe. 

Crossbows seem like they might be OP in this system, but I figure that when they are aiming their crossbow you would start to lose stamina, reloading would also take stamina. 

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Re: Don't ever add stamina to the game
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2012, 05:16:20 pm »
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In my opinion, it's just a horrible idea that will erode more fun out of the game.  There are ways to improve mechanics without limiting players further.  Let's see some of that.

Let's see some additions to mechanics that don't revolve around reducing player abilities.
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Re: Don't ever add stamina to the game
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2012, 05:17:56 pm »
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Yeah I think stamina and first person mode would be awesome, but should not be added.  It would be too much for people to try and deal with after not having them in the game for years.  Warband isn't super "arcadey" compared to a lot of modern FPS games, and that War of the Roses game, but not having stamina is one major drawback, IMO.  But like I said, I wouldn't want to see it added at this point.
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Re: Don't ever add stamina to the game
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2012, 08:59:04 am »
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Ingame, spook is a total (ahem!!!!) but he is right here:  "..it's just a horrible idea that will erode more fun out of the game.  There are ways to improve mechanics without limiting players further.  Let's see some of that."

"Just Say No To Stamina!"
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Re: Don't ever add stamina to the game
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2012, 09:10:11 am »
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Stamina would suck. Skyrim that way :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

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Re: Don't ever add stamina to the game
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2012, 09:23:07 am »
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In my opinion, it's just a horrible idea that will erode more fun out of the game.  There are ways to improve mechanics without limiting players further.  Let's see some of that.

Let's see some additions to mechanics that don't revolve around reducing player abilities.

This all the way.
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Re: Don't ever add stamina to the game
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2012, 09:28:20 am »
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depends on the implementation. just because other games did a crappy job (out of stamina, can't attack, herpaderp), doesn't mean this is the only way this could work.

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Re: Don't ever add stamina to the game
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2012, 09:36:24 am »
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There is a line which totally so thin between realism and arcade for games ;
 If you make the game realistic it will be nice to play but probably u will get bored soon. (MW)
 If you make the game arcade it wont be really nice to play but probably u will have fun so much. ( BF3 )

So the main reason we are all playing this mod for 2 years its neither arcade nor realistic ; Its just between both and thats why its nice to play so stamina bar would be nice but it wont really freeze the fuck of you =)

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Re: Don't ever add stamina to the game
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2012, 10:25:07 am »
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I just had a great idea.  Instead of considering a stamina bar, just add a sprint bar instead.  That way you'd be adding a dimension without taking ability away from players.

Just enough juice for a about 5 seconds of a 50% increase to speed that recharges very slowly.

Something that would add flavor to the game without making a real impact on gameplay.
Those are almost always the best changes.


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Re: Don't ever add stamina to the game
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2012, 11:59:11 am »
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Nice idea.  ADD something instead of handicapping players more....  herpa derp

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Re: Don't ever add stamina to the game
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2012, 12:03:58 pm »
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I just had a great idea.  Instead of considering a stamina bar, just add a sprint bar instead.  That way you'd be adding a dimension without taking ability away from players.

Just enough juice for a about 5 seconds of a 50% increase to speed that recharges very slowly.

Something that would add flavor to the game without making a real impact on gameplay.
Those are almost always the best changes.

That'd be cool. And could have the regen on the stamina based on weight, agi, str, etc or just a baseline regen rate. Either way it'd be cool to have something like that.
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Re: Don't ever add stamina to the game
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2012, 12:11:25 pm »
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And for the riders ofc (holding a lance horizontally should drain stamina with the speed of light.
Well no. You'd hook the lance in the crook on your elbow, not hold it