How to make archery more fun for everyone

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Bump.

[Boss_Awesome]

Why not remove the archer's ability to kite and then make archery like it is in native?  (faster draw speed and faster arrows instead of slow ass noodle slingers)   Archery has been nerfed pretty severely in c-rpg compared to native, archers can balance this out through kiting ability which wasn't present in native.  Pure archers should remain viable, people shouldn't be forced into hybridization.  If kiting is removed the pure archers will need an increase in killing power so they have a chance to down infantry focusing on them. 

[Herkkutatti666]

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The archer
That's an archer. He's gay.

The problem
Gay kiting.

My proposed solution
Remove archers.

Signed

[Corsair831]

what is wrong with kiting ? i just dont understand.

you take heavy armour, because you're bad .... heavy armour = advantages, you're really hard to kill, disadvantages = you're slow ....

BUT NO!

"i cannot have disadvantages for my heavy armour !!!" is that what you're seriously saying ?

the 3 body armour 0 melee capability 10 shot to kill me archers must not be able to run away from me !

frankly most of you guys are just bad at the game and need to learn to play rather than expecting the game to change to your style of play. noobs.

[Vodner]

what is wrong with kiting ? i just dont understand.

you take heavy armour, because you're bad .... heavy armour = advantages, you're really hard to kill, disadvantages = you're slow ....

You can take an 18/21 1h build with light armor, and still not be able to catch a ton of archers. It's silly.

At level 33, you can do this:

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    Strength: 18
    Agility: 27

    Skills to attributes: 14

    Athletics: 9
    Power Draw: 6
    Weapon Master: 5

    Archery: 152With a +3 bow and +3 arrows, you will hit most player quite hard. This will also allow you to outrun pretty much any dedicated melee class in the game.

[Corsair831]

You can take an 18/21 1h build with light armor, and still not be able to catch a ton of archers. It's silly.

At level 33, you can do this:

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    Strength: 18
    Agility: 27

    Skills to attributes: 14

    Athletics: 9
    Power Draw: 6
    Weapon Master: 5

    Archery: 152With a +3 bow and +3 arrows, you will hit most player quite hard. This will also allow you to outrun pretty much any dedicated melee class in the game.

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At level 33, you can do this: "

if he's level 33, and you are level 33, you can be 18/24 not 18/21

[Vodner]

"
At level 33, you can do this: "

if he's level 33, and you are level 33, you can be 18/24 not 18/21

18/24 in padded cloth with a shield is never going to catch 18/27 in plainclothes without one. In addition to not being able to catch that archer, you also now stand to die in two teamwounds, or even a couple teambumps.

In addition, having extra levels as a melee class does not suddenly make you immune from nearly every other melee class in the game. It does make you quite a bit more powerful, but you are still forced to close distance to engage. This makes it possible for any other melee specced character to kill you.

[Corsair831]

18/24 in padded cloth with a shield is never going to catch 18/27 in plainclothes without one. In addition to not being able to catch that archer, you also now stand to die in two teamwounds, or even a couple teambumps.

In addition, having extra levels as a melee class does not suddenly make you immune from nearly every other melee class in the game. It does make you quite a bit more powerful, but you are still forced to close distance to engage. This makes it possible for any other melee specced character to kill you.

well i dont know what you're all whining about, im light armour 18/21 hoplite and i have no problems catching archers before patch, now it's just a joke they're so slow

[IR_Kuoin]

well i dont know what you're all whining about, im light armour 18/21 hoplite and i have no problems catching archers before patch, now it's just a joke they're so slow

Don't you think the new weight is more realistic? I mean, as a medieval archer you would have around 20-30 arrows in your quiver. The wood and steel tip of the arrow would have had some weight on it. It would ofc. not have been as heavy as it is in cRPG atm. But it was either 13 PD archers, kiting archers or heavy arrows. And I think the heavy arrows are more reasonable.

[Strider]

Archery is dealt with already. This complaint was made 3 months ago. Who would dare bring it back up?

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[Havoco]

TL;DR version: 2h wanna stay pure builds so they force it upon archers to go hybrid.

I got a solution. Make hybrid builds viable again! Make it so 2h with some other weapon like throwing or Xbow is good! Make it so pikeman can rely on a sword and possibly a shield for close combat!

[Blackbow]

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The archer
That's an archer. See what he's carrying? Yes, that is a sword. See what he's wearing? That's right, armor.

The problem
I hate archers. Not because they shoot at me and occasionally kill me, that is to be expected if you're a retard who refuses to use a shield. It's what they do and are supposed to do...
Fighting is good gameplay, running isn't. Remove running and replace....

everybody know me as pro kiter and i fucking agree with Teeth
devs should think about those idea

about the gameplay
i see more something like that :
when u bent your bow you lost all your athletics then u shot your bow is back in passiv position and your ath is back

and about the melee weapon i ask that since a while

imo archers started to kite when the slot weapon system appear coz they lost their way to defend

[Havoco]

Replace slot system with encumbrance system. Done.

[Blackbow]

Replace slot system with encumbrance system. Done.

clap bro you are a genius =p

hey guys he found the solution !!!!

[IR_Kuoin]

You can always go with Tennes build:


http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,18060.0.html

Strength: 18
Agility: 21

Power Strike: 3
Power Draw: 6
Athletics: 7
Weapon Master: 7

1/2 Handed: 50
Archery: 159

Tested it myself from level 1 - 29. Works great, but I don't like being and archer