Valour endless gold raining ...

[Vkvkvk]

You don't need heirlooms or even a solid build to get Valor.

Case in point:

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6/33 build with extremely light armor and nothing but a spear and I can still get Valor no problem.

[Bonze]

You don't need heirlooms or even a solid build to get Valor.

Case in point:

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6/33 build with extremely light armor and nothing but a spear and I can still get Valor no problem.

Its a endless gold raining system for people with the most looms  and playtime (damage ! + level).
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acknowledgment  ............6/33 Build ..............thx 


bad example ..
Spear/pike thrust is bugged like hell (hits from 30 cm distance with a 2 meter long pike isnt fair sportsmanship)

[Vkvkvk]

acknowledgment  ............6/33 Build ..............thx 


bad example ..
Spear/pike thrust is bugged like hell (hits from 30 cm distance with a 2 meter long pike isnt fair sportsmanship)

I'm sorry, what? I feel like I'm having more trouble than I should trying to understand what you typed just now.

[Phew]

Now that siege has valor, I think valor is more accessible than ever. Nearly anyone can get valor on siege by:

1. Mauling the top of a ladder on D
2. Throwing/shooting down a ladder on D
3. Piking through a gate on D
4. Defending a choke point with lots of teammates on D
5. Hunting archers on the walls as O

OK, so getting valor is a bit harder when you're on offense. But now there is a reward for playing defense on siege (which is usually a miserable proposition).

[Torost]

Im an archer(Rusbow and 2 stacks of arrows)and I only only room for a 0slot meleewep so I try to stay out of melee.
I do decent damage from time to time, rack up a bunch of points if I get lucky.

It is extremely rare that I get valor at end the end of the round.
And when I do, im always at X1 anyway.

Usually it is in situations where I am among the last few and all out of arrows, resorting to picking up random polearms and 2handers.
Charge and swing like a madman, and get the occational kill. Doesnt happen all that much.

Would really like to know how the valor is decided. Because it certainly does not favour ranged combat.
And maybe it should not either... RUNAWAY!!! 

A fixed sum of bonusgold would be a much better reward IMO , than keeping a X1 multi..

[rustyspoon]

Now that siege has valor, I think valor is more accessible than ever. Nearly anyone can get valor on siege by:

1. Mauling the top of a ladder on D
2. Throwing/shooting down a ladder on D
3. Piking through a gate on D
4. Defending a choke point with lots of teammates on D
5. Hunting archers on the walls as O

OK, so getting valor is a bit harder when you're on offense. But now there is a reward for playing defense on siege (which is usually a miserable proposition).

I'm still not sold on the new valor system especially on siege. I played siege a bit yesterday. I got valor every single round whether I was offense or defense, won or lost. If I won twice, I'd get an x5 due to valor. If I then lost, I was just down to an x4. It just seems terribly broken to me.

[Digglez]

Now that siege has valor, I think valor is more accessible than ever. Nearly anyone can get valor on siege by:

1. Mauling the top of a ladder on D
2. Throwing/shooting down a ladder on D
3. Piking through a gate on D
4. Defending a choke point with lots of teammates on D
5. Hunting archers on the walls as O

OK, so getting valor is a bit harder when you're on offense. But now there is a reward for playing defense on siege (which is usually a miserable proposition).

zomg, playing as a team?

[Molly]

I keep saying this for weeks already: Remove valour cuz it's stupid.

[Vibe]

Why would valour be stupid? It rewards players who get high scores - that is either by damaging/killing people or horses, while sticking close to the group which is basically what battle is about?

[dodnet]

With old system valour was fairly ok, but now its the same ppl getting valour almost every round. Its not a reward anymore, its a slap in the face to all others who don't get it. Its esp frustrating if only the winning team gets valour. They get 1 multi for free. And most of them who get it, don't really need it (including me).

[gazda]

just do a complete wipe of everything, gold , looms, gens, levels, strat and all will be fine

[Lech]

With old system valour was fairly ok, but now its the same ppl getting valour almost every round. Its not a reward anymore, its a slap in the face to all others who don't get it. Its esp frustrating if only the winning team gets valour. They get 1 multi for free. And most of them who get it, don't really need it (including me).

Got valor 3 times on battle in a row (i lost every single battle on the map), got it on siege fairy often. Why shouldn't i get rewarded for my good play ?

[Gimest]

just do a complete wipe of everything, gold , looms, gens, levels, strat and all will be fine

This would just move the problem to future, if nothing gets changed big time, theres no reason to wipe. Its alot better to solve the problem then move it for future ;)

There was a time when we had no valour, I would appreciate if it gets removed, or altered so only low level or Gen 1 player can actually get it, as award that they play with non-loomed/low level characters against fully-loomed high level people. 

Now this would be pretty nice for the new players, or it just could go back to reward only players from losing team, wich was pretty nice.

[Tzar]

I love this new system its quite fun to be rewarded from playing your best at times. 

Its quite refreshing instead of the Stalin soviet system we are used too..

Offcourse baddies will be jelly an want the system removed..

[Molly]

The battle is about winning and loosing as team. Excluding few players from the consequence of the team effort is... you may have guessed it already... stupid.

Either your team wins and everyone gets a reward already or your team loses and there is no point rewarding few who did exceptional good cuz they still failed, obviously.
Atm it's especially bad because it's indeed always the same people getting valour. Before it had at least a rather random feel to it which at least seemed to be some kind of fair. Now it's always the same strenght crutching spammer or cav player who is rewarded. Ofc they like the new valour. For people playing unpopular builds and/or weapons it's a slap in the face.

Conclusion: Do it like Warlord nicely suggested and cap it to gen 1 players till lvl 30 or remove it completely.

It may be different for siege. Can't tell cuz I don't play it. For battle it's stupid.