Macros : Cheat or Not?

[Vodner]

when you see someone feints 6/7 times (sometimes even like 15 feints in 4 seconds ) in a row at crazy speed (impossible to do with mouse, just look at the difference between mouse AND macro feinting in the video above)

It's not difficult to feint 6-7 times in rapid succession. It's certainly not impossible.

At any rate, feinting any faster than Tobi is in that duel video actually makes your feints easier to read (since people generally won't block until fairly late in the swing animation).

[Arathian]

Oh, so macros can be used for cheating?

Too bad, I wanted to find how to make macros in order to auto type "you fucking retarded moron" every time somebody wounded me for no apparent reason.

Well, I guess I won't be doing that then.

This is why we can't have nice things indeed :/

[Tavuk_Bey]

inb4 emortality calls police irl for this case

btw ban ynscn for spreading the necro-bullshit from turkish subforum

[Tonyukuk]

immo: firstt beat bashibazouk_sehzade in duel and than you can speak about cicero..

[LordBerenger]

Anything that gives you an advantage over the majority of players could be a cheat.

• Using macros
• Installing a M&B sub mod (certain texture/sound changes)
• Altering the M&B/crpg code yourself

Then there are things that gives you an advantage but can't be considered cheating.
Either becauase they are achievable within the game itself or because they are accepted or used by the majority.

• Using DirectX7 instead of DirectX9
• Turning of ingame music
• Zooming out in 3rd person mode
• Binding the action "jump" to a foot pedal controller
• Using teamspeak or similar receiving valuable information possibly giving you an advantage

So binding the action ''attack'' or ''block'' with a foot pedal controller is okay as well? Yay

[Wojtek_the_Kurwa_Great]

I don't see what you would macro for this game anyways. Maybe auto run button, or macros for quick commands.

What else? Macros for holds or feints? Doesn't seem like any kind of advantage.

If I was to macro I would write something to block / swing constantly in the direction I was looking at a max apm that the game would register until I decided to let go.

It would effectively chamber / block anything in that direction granted you were looking properly (I do this right now anyways but obviously not like a machine can)

Macros are also easy to write/do.  So Fuck you.

[BlackMilk]

100% cheat.

[Digglez]

kinda of a moot point as there is no way to enforce this.  show me 1 game that actually prevents/bans the use of programmable input controllers

All you gotta do is make it SLOWER to block while doing a feint.  Kinda silly that a game with such great physics reduces weapon momentum/inertia to a basic "its either unbalanced and cant stop or its balanced and a 2-4 weight weapon can instantly teleport where you need it".

[oprah_winfrey]

kinda of a moot point as there is no way to enforce this.  show me 1 game that actually prevents/bans the use of programmable input controllers

All you gotta do is make it SLOWER to block while doing a feint.  Kinda silly that a game with such great physics reduces weapon momentum/inertia to a basic "its either unbalanced and cant stop or its balanced and a 2-4 weight weapon can instantly teleport where you need it".

Yes, lets dumb the game down even more because a few people might be using feintspam macros.

[Vkvkvk]

I just love watching these native duel videos and everyone is just feintspamming so hard in every possible direction that at any given time they're actually looking at the ground or at the sky rather than the opponent.

I wish the game didn't look fuckstupid nowadays, it reminds me of GunZ back when everyone used the actual game's mechanics until they figured they could do some fancy (Read: stupid looking) shit by breaking the animations and ohhhhhhhhHHHHHH BUTTERFLY SHOTGUN 360 SPIN ELEETPRO WALLSLASH.

I loved the old cRPG, not because of the gameplay or everyone being in plate and plated chargers. Everyone was just actually playing as it was meant to be played before fucked up and broken mechanics were discovered.

[Digglez]

Yes, lets dumb the game down even more because a few people might be using feintspam macros.

Yep, dumb it down by improving physics. 

[TurmoilTom]

I personally don't care if people use feint-macros or even autoblock.

The game is being reduced to the point where the incredibly high skill level that these programs simulate doesn't mean much anymore, anyway.

[wayyyyyne]

The snail like combat speed we got in cRPG these days actually comes in quite handy. It's simply not viable enough to macro your feints because they're just as blockable.

[Vibe]

Cicero's feints suck too much to be considered a macro, just saying

And it's not like feints (feint macros) are of any use in cRPG due to everything slow as shit

I just love watching these native duel videos and everyone is just feintspamming so hard in every possible direction that at any given time they're actually looking at the ground or at the sky rather than the opponent.

Would much rather feintspam hard than have blocking duels till the first guy gets bored as is in cRPG

[duurrr]

wow so gay
also explains a lot

vkvkvk is bad tho, playerskill too high for you on native obv