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Team Sizes

3 v 3
2 (4.3%)
5 v 5
8 (17%)
7 v 7
14 (29.8%)
10 v 10
17 (36.2%)
15 v 15
6 (12.8%)

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Voting closed: April 10, 2011, 12:22:49 am

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NA Tourny Poll 2
« on: April 09, 2011, 12:22:49 am »
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Because I couldn't make a new poll on the old thread....

After this plans can be made in earnest.
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Re: NA Tourny Poll 2
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2011, 12:24:09 am »
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7v7 would probably be fairer to clans that cannot muster tons of people on the weekends
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Re: NA Tourny Poll 2
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2011, 12:40:29 am »
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random teams might work if they'd be assembled by players themselves inagame. (most of the guys would make them ahead on forums but those remaining would join some existing team or would form up quickly the new one). than you'd have to come up quickly with some system for the tournament after the teams would be assembled. for sure it would be more difficult than with the clan tourney with registrations ahead. i plan to do the same with couples tournament (but i haven't really find enough courage to make something with bigger teams as it would be more complicated for organizing).
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Re: NA Tourny Poll 2
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2011, 12:56:22 am »
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Make it Random teams with an emphasis on the individual and not the whole team. Each kill could be a point or something that add up to a total score. So instead of team X winning it will be individual Y then individual Z in second aand so on. Something along those lines... I'm sure some complicated formula can be dreamt up by those way smarter than me that wouldn't put an such a heavy emphasis on kills and the like.

This way people can be dropped and subbed in for teams as long as everyone plays the same number of matches.

Would be a bitch to put together clan matches would be oh so easier.

Oh didn't see it was already decided  :oops: next time then
« Last Edit: April 09, 2011, 12:57:50 am by Noble Crassius »
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Re: NA Tourny Poll 2
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2011, 01:22:05 am »
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Have team sizes be 10 down to 7.  So:

Team A shows up with ten players
Team B only has eight

Play eight on eight players.  But if Team B shows up with 6 players then it's 7 on 6.  This leaves some room for smaller teams to compete against the larger ones while still providing strong incentive to have a large pool of players.  Perhaps larger teams should allow for swapping in/out guys each round depending on who they're playing. 

So many possibilities  :rolleyes:


NOTE:  If team sizes are going to be small then there should be some gear restrictions.  E.g. if everybody on one team showed up with all plated chargers then the other team would be trampled rather unfairly.  With teams of ten we could, for example, restrict to a 1/2 ratio of huscarl users per team, a 1/5 ratio of top tier horses per team, and a 1/3 ratio of crushthrough per team.  Y/N?

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Re: NA Tourny Poll 2
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2011, 01:31:32 am »
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I completely agree with (modern days) Diomedes!
Make the teams 10 down to 7.
This way it's going to be less restrictive. A clan-less (button-mashing) hero might chose to go in a team of 3 or even 2 against a clan's 7. And that just makes it more spectacular and more flexible, considering that (some) people have real lives too. Or so I've heard some rumors...
It's more than twice as hard to get 8 people together at the same time than to get 4 together at the same time. And as the number increases, so does the ratio. But this flexible method will also allow large (or eager) clans to have 10 vs 10 battles, which will be fun. Moreover, it will be serious incentive to compete for the first n spots in your clan's team. For instance, mr. X is his clan's no.1 cavalry pick. And mademoiselle Y is her clan's no.3 shield-and-pick pick.
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About the item restrictions, however, it's a little more complicated, unfortunately.
The first idea I propose is a budget limit per team or per player. Better to be per team, though. And to try to enforce it and make things clear, every team must present the full list of items they spawn with at the beginning of the battle, so that the discrepancies between the list and the real action are easier to spot.
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Re: NA Tourny Poll 2
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2011, 02:10:58 am »
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I like the idea for a budget, either screenshots or just trustworthy (I can see a guy in full black armour).

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Re: NA Tourny Poll 2
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2011, 02:56:29 am »
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I like the idea for a budget, either screenshots or just trustworthy (I can see a guy in full black armour).

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Re: NA Tourny Poll 2
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2011, 06:11:59 am »
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I don't agree with the budget thing, everyone should be able to compete unrestricted in their best gear. Sounds alot more fun.
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Re: NA Tourny Poll 2
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2011, 06:29:37 am »
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I don't agree with the budget thing, everyone should be able to compete unrestricted in their best gear. Sounds alot more fun.

Until you face team lance throw, and then what? D:

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Re: NA Tourny Poll 2
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2011, 06:33:55 am »
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yeah it's gonna be black armor vs lance team...

Are cavs allowed ? that'd suck to see a team of 10 cavs vs 10 inf

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Re: NA Tourny Poll 2
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2011, 06:45:47 am »
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Until you face team lance throw, and then what? D:

Buy shields

yeah it's gonna be black armor vs lance team...

Are cavs allowed ? that'd suck to see a team of 10 cavs vs 10 inf

Someone's having flashbacks. A squad with good teamwork and communication can adapt to any kind of lineup.
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Re: NA Tourny Poll 2
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2011, 07:21:52 am »
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What about people without clans?

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Re: NA Tourny Poll 2
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2011, 07:23:57 am »
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What about people without clans?

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Re: NA Tourny Poll 2
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2011, 07:27:08 am »
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Someone's having flashbacks. A squad with good teamwork and communication can adapt to any kind of lineup.

I don't think this is a reasonable standard.  Even a team with great teamwork and communication is limited by their gear, skill, and terrain.  Ten plated charges in plate charging a mix of infantry on a cavalry map have a definite advantage.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2011, 06:40:11 pm by Diomedes »