Giev full wipe now!

[Teeth]

The reason for wipe is to stop the grinding fest this game has become for so many, to equalize chances for everyone and especially for new players and to show Garison that there is more to life than loom points.   And if you say that the skills are the most important factor, I agree. But that is actually an argument IN FAVOR of wipe, not the opposite. Cause if you are good, you will stay good without triple loomed equipment and weapons.

Once again, a simple wipe will obviously cause nothing like this. If the game just gets wiped, then the heirloom grinding will start all over again, the equalized chances will last exactly a week. What you say here will only happen if loompoints get removed or changed. In which case I would love a wipe. Fuck loompoints, they are a retarded mechanic.

A wipe will not fix anything unless you change the system, it will just set everyone back 1.5 years and tell them to fuck off or do that shitty retiring shit again. I am done with grinding in the current system and I only support a removal of grinding.

And that thing about gen 20 is utter nonsense, Teeth. Just browse through this topic and you will see that there are lot of people with different gens and rather successful in trading who are supporting wipe.  I'll repeat, gen 10 here, almost 2 years of playing, 15 loom points in equipment, another 6 at a friend atm (not Panos ), and I am supporting full wipe. There are many others.

I'm not saying that only gen 20's are in favour of a wipe, my post was only directed at a few gen 20's, not as a general statement about the type of people that support a wipe. There are obviously many other type of players that support a wipe, mostly people with clouded judgement.

[Molly]

Once again, a simple wipe will obviously cause nothing like this. If the game just gets wiped, then the heirloom grinding will start all over again, the equalized chances will last exactly a week. What you say here will only happen if loompoints get removed or changed. In which case I would love a wipe. Fuck loompoints, they are a retarded mechanic.

A wipe will not fix anything unless you change the system, it will just set everyone back 1.5 years and tell them to fuck off or do that shitty retiring shit again. I am done with grinding in the current system and I only support a removal of grinding.
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I agree and +1'd you on this. Make heirlooms just an optic goodie for those who are willing to go that road.
Wipe the database but keep the generations as reward for invested time. Maybe even hand out free "optic" heirloom points for every 5 gens completed or something...

[Taser]

So a lot of people just said yes on a wipe without asking or wondering if anything was going to be changed which defeats the purpose of the wipe itself?

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[Rhekimos]

So a lot of people just said yes on a wipe without asking or wondering if anything was going to be changed which defeats the purpose of the wipe itself?

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Seems so. I wonder what happens if they are forced to realize that they weren't beaten by heirlooms alone, too.

It's a very convenient way to protect your identity by just blaming the small advantage that heirlooms give, instead of taking a look at your own playing.

[Son Of Odin]

Seems so. I wonder what happens if they are forced to realize that they weren't beaten by heirlooms alone, too.

It's a very convenient way to protect your identity by just blaming the small advantage that heirlooms give, instead of taking a look at your own playing.

+1. Btw listen to Miralay in ts sometimes when I come and he wants to duel me for some reason . "I duel you but you goddamn loom crutcher win because you have everything loomed!". Lol only my armor, lance, axe and horse are loomed. Still missing helmet, boots and gloves so I think I'm not even near fully loomed set (and neither do I even want to be). Still if I lose to someone with full loom set I can only blame myself.

Lumz = overrated.

[Darkoveride]

i think they should reset peoples gold , so to balance out game , some players have amassed millions others have only a few k. set people to equal footing give everyone something like 25k. no need to lose looms or anything.

[Leshma]

Full wipe or no wipe.

It's your own problem you have no gold. Some people sold heirlooms for gold.

heirlooms = gold

Btw. why would anyone level again when there are STF chars, if they wipe cRPG I mean?

[Teeth]

+1. Btw listen to Miralay in ts sometimes when I come and he wants to duel me for some reason . "I duel you but you goddamn loom crutcher win because you have everything loomed!". Lol only my armor, lance, axe and horse are loomed. Still missing helmet, boots and gloves so I think I'm not even near fully loomed set (and neither do I even want to be). Still if I lose to someone with full loom set I can only blame myself.

Lumz = overrated.

Looms are not at all that insignificant.

Let's see what my looms give me.

3c damage, 2p damage, 1 weapon speed, 3 head armor, 10 body armor and 5 leg armor.

+9% damage, +9% damage, +1% speed, +6% protection, +18% protection, +13% protection. Looms make me about 10% better across the board.

[Son Of Odin]

Well 10% ain't that big and they sure as hell don't make you block better or hit better

[Rhekimos]

Looms are not at all that insignificant.

Let's see what my looms give me.

3c damage, 2p damage, 1 weapon speed, 3 head armor, 10 body armor and 5 leg armor.

+9% damage, +9% damage, +1% speed, +6% protection, +18% protection, +13% protection. Looms make me about 10% better across the board.

Insignificant when compared to just knowing how to block, for example.

Someone with an unloomed, slower and less damaging weapon can still kill you. Someone with the barely damaging bow can deal the stun that renders you unable to use any of your heirloom advantages.

[dodnet]

Looms are not at all that insignificant.

Let's see what my looms give me.

3c damage, 2p damage, 1 weapon speed, 3 head armor, 10 body armor and 5 leg armor.

+9% damage, +9% damage, +1% speed, +6% protection, +18% protection, +13% protection. Looms make me about 10% better across the board.

Nice calculation. I get 2 or 3 shotted with normal gear. I get 2 or 3 shotted with MW gear. I get even oneshot killed quite often. I see no big difference. Its nice to have MW items, but they are only a small bonus.

[[ptx]]

They are of no significance, when everyone has them. Try fighting a guy in +3 armor set and +3 weapons with an unloomed 1h, feel the disadvantage as you glance/do little damage again and again, except for perfect hits to face.

[Rhekimos]

They are of no significance, when everyone has them. Try fighting a guy in +3 armor set and +3 weapons with an unloomed 1h, feel the disadvantage as you glance/do little damage again and again, except for perfect hits to face.

That happens often with low damage weapons on people with high armor values, regardless of heirlooms. 1h is especially tricky with their agi builds.

I actually like it how you can't expect with absolute precision how each weapon and armor behaves, because you can't see what heirloom level they are. Keeps you on your toes.

[Kuujis]

They are of no significance, when everyone has them. Try fighting a guy in +3 armor set and +3 weapons with an unloomed 1h, feel the disadvantage as you glance/do little damage again and again, except for perfect hits to face.

I'm kind of trying to practice my blocking on duel server during recent days... If I do not scavenge field for loomed stuff - I usually fail to kill anyone, while with MW... IDK, either it's luck, or guys start to die in front of me. It's usually like this - I have to hit 4-6 times, wile I get 2shottet almost always (those stats involve 2h's mostly, so... yeah, subjective  )

[Leshma]

Currently I'm hating cmp so much, not because of wipe but because he won't say (for realz) will there be wipe and when.