Nerf Horsebump

[Rebelyell]

jump in to a horse in rl and check how that works

really bump is o low imo

[Miwiw]

Actually a horse should also take damage when bumping, depending on the infantry's armor. That does make sense!

[polkafranzi]

Reading this thread has only reminded me that the infantry QQ lobby trounces the ranged one.

How could I have forgotten this.

Archers, all is forgiven.

[Herkkutatti666]

62 body armor + 8 if and destrier takes 1/3 of my hp.. sometimes even more.

[gazda]

realistic is that when you get run over by a horse, you die - yet you dont
realistic is that when your horse gets shot in the chest, he collapses - yet he doesnt

I would really be interested in seeing how would combat look like with both of those. I must say it would be interesting thing to observe

[Penitent]

not bad ?! it 2 shot kills me !!!! champion courser with 7 or 8 riding and i literally get 2 shotted if he bumps me !! i have 6 IF and 55 bump armour

It 2 shot kills you EVERY time?  Damage and armor absorb is random.  Usually when I get bumped with 2 IF and 40 armor, the damage is hardly even noticed.  I only fear being knocked down, not being hurt.  The bump damage I experience is like getting punched.  It's laughable!

I guess the courser could be going REALLY fast and make more damage, but I've never noticed it.

[Gurnisson]

hahaha yeah that´d be cool - hitting a orse once it dies and you kill the rider, then another bumps you and you die no matter your str, if or armor 

I would go epic sumpter horse cav and run into masses

[bruce]

Horses should simply, flat out, have less HP. THAT is the problem. The counter to cavalry was always ranged; but when a light horse can survive a crossbow bolt, or 4 arrows, then it is not a counter. Furthermore, if you run into a lone spearman, you have good chances to not be dehorsed instantly unless it is a str monster.

Bumping damage is fine. It was introduced to fix a totally broken mechanic.

[polkafranzi]

Horses should simply, flat out, have less HP. THAT is the problem. The counter to cavalry was always ranged; but when a light horse can survive a crossbow bolt, or 4 arrows, then it is not a counter. Furthermore, if you run into a lone spearman, you have good chances to not be dehorsed instantly unless it is a str monster.

Bumping damage is fine. It was introduced to fix a totally broken mechanic.

lol

Before you write a load of bullshit think about this:

Aim for the legs (or maybe even the head), now that's some broken shit right there.

I have a champion plated charger, and a scythe can 1 hit it dead if the guy sidesteps me or I miss my lance thrust.

Also, I have a lvl 30 HA alt, and she has no looms, just 5 PD and horn bow/bodkins combo...i'm totally noob at this class but have no problems at all taking out light cav lancers with 1/2 arrows if I hit the head.  Yet when it comes to trying to kill some annoying infantry I can bump-shoot-bump-shoot about 10 times before he might die...so...bump damage is not as OP as all you other my old friends are writing here.

[Penitent]

Horses break like glass unless you get the most powerful ones...and then they are slow as shit and are easy to hit and kill...

I don't know where all this horse hate is coming from...

[polkafranzi]

I don't know where all this horse hate is coming from...

People who have little or no awareness, agi builds, archers or just plain idiots who follow the "nerf cav" crowd because they see cav doing well on open plains maps.

I guess.

[bagge]

The bump isn't that bad...even on an armored horse its weak.

Actually, with my 40 body armor a champ destrier does up to 40% (armored up to 50%) bump damage. Even the slighest touch will do 10%. Sometimes I just spend my rounds getting bumped down to 20%. True story.

To be honest shouldn't horse bumps be a part of fragging in a game, at least that not as effective it is now.

[polkafranzi]

Actually, with my 40 body armor a champ destrier does up to 40% (armored up to 50%) bump damage. Even the slighest touch will do 10%. Sometimes I just spend my rounds getting bumped down to 20%. True story.

To be honest shouldn't horse bumps be a part of fragging in a game, at least that not as effective it is now.

1 of your arrows does over 40% to champ destrier, therefore your argument is invalid 

[Penitent]

Well...I honestly cannot understand this.  I never lose more than 5-10% from a horse bump.  I'm not even sure we're talking about the same game here!

[bagge]

Well...I honestly cannot understand this.  I never lose more than 5-10% from a horse bump.  I'm not even sure we're talking about the same game here!

Maybe you confused cRPG to Native