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Offline Xant

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Re: 2handers guide
« Reply #60 on: April 14, 2011, 04:04:14 pm »
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Bjord, however, is still gay.
Meaning lies as much
in the mind of the reader
as in the Haiku.

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Re: 2handers guide
« Reply #61 on: April 14, 2011, 04:17:10 pm »
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Cheers Bjord and Phyrex for writing these extensive texts your work is very much appreciated and a must read for every 2her

And now he can't play because of "common sense" and he doesn't understand how this common sense works
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Re: 2handers guide
« Reply #62 on: April 14, 2011, 04:22:10 pm »
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It would be nice to get all this in the first post.

I made a new topic for that reason but i dont mind deleting it if this thread is stickied/changed.

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Re: 2handers guide
« Reply #63 on: April 14, 2011, 04:26:21 pm »
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Cheers Bjord and Phyrex for writing these extensive texts your work is very much appreciated and a must read for every 2her

only i need a vacation to read them   :D :mrgreen:
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Re: 2handers guide
« Reply #64 on: April 14, 2011, 05:21:47 pm »
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I edited the first post in the topic, take a look.
I mean, what have you got to lose? You know, you come from nothing, you're going back to nothing, what have you lost? Nothing!

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Re: 2handers guide
« Reply #65 on: April 14, 2011, 07:56:37 pm »
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I am very glad that some of the best CRPG players decided to share their knowledge... they rarely do it.

There is still one thing that haven't been written much about in this thread; how to kill good blockers.

When you epic guys (Phyrex, Bjord and others) enocunter a person who blocks every attack a regular player throws in their face, how do you get a hit in?
What are your favourite feinting for those people? which attack types do you use? how do you move while fighting?

I would really love to know how you guys kill good blockers, as that is really hard for me.

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Re: 2handers guide
« Reply #66 on: April 14, 2011, 07:59:03 pm »
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you spam them when they're busy being impressed with their own feinting

also you'll have to develop some attack sequences that are harder to follow

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Re: 2handers guide
« Reply #67 on: April 14, 2011, 09:01:14 pm »
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I haven't responded to this thread because I honestly don't believe I belong in the OP.
Xant, Bjord and Phyrex, etc. are pro's, I'm a trained noob.

I don't really know how I've gotten on the list, but I guess I can tell you that half the time I've played cRPG I've spent on the duel server training.
Also, some backstory to me, I started playing cRPG a week before the patch arrived with the black lamellar vest, but I saw Thomek running around being pretty awesome. And I had never learned to block myself, so I decided to shelf the character I've managed to make(a level 15 shielder) and rolled a 2hander ninja. After that I leveled up to around 20 with it getting horribly slaughtered and then got tired of it and made a mental list at what I suck at. Blocking, footowork, timing, etc. was all on the list. I levelled from 20 to 27 practically in the duel server, just trying to learn how to fight.(It was in the good old days when you gained experience in the duel server.)

Next up on the list is learning how to chamber in battle when I'm sure it won't miss.
Just know your flaws, and try not to repeat and be persistant. This is what worked for me, can't guarantee it'll work for anyone else.

I'm sorry I can't be more of help, because I've never before put in to words what it is I do, but what the other guys said seems right.
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Re: 2handers guide
« Reply #68 on: April 14, 2011, 09:13:13 pm »
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You got on the list because I remembered some rounds when I saw Khorin rushing into the crowd from some weird angle and taking down 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 opponents in 30sec, and then saying (very cool, I must admit) to the rest of the team - I did my thing, just clean up the rest. Also, I remember seeing you in Duel server dueling with Bjord and some other high profile 2handers, and I honestly didn't think you were worse. In any case, you have very different and authentic style (based on your preferred weapon - katana), but I think you are being too modest.
I never saw Thomek in action, and that I regret.
I mean, what have you got to lose? You know, you come from nothing, you're going back to nothing, what have you lost? Nothing!

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Re: 2handers guide
« Reply #69 on: April 14, 2011, 09:19:42 pm »
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I did my thing, just clean up the rest.
Wow, can't remember that but I sound like a douche. I apologize for that.

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Re: 2handers guide
« Reply #70 on: April 14, 2011, 09:38:13 pm »
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Nah, it was pretty cool, don't worry about it.
I mean, what have you got to lose? You know, you come from nothing, you're going back to nothing, what have you lost? Nothing!

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Re: 2handers guide
« Reply #71 on: April 15, 2011, 01:10:08 pm »
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I edited the first post in the topic, take a look.

thx man ^^

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Re: 2handers guide
« Reply #72 on: April 15, 2011, 02:17:08 pm »
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if you want to be a master of the 2h. (like me MHUAHAHAHAHA)
you have to master each skill of combat.

-Kickslash
-Jumping
-Footwork
-Blocking
-Chamberblocking
-Feinting
-Holdstriking

if you master all those skills you just have to adjust them to your opponent.


there is one more important thing, you have to be unpredictable.
cause if your opponent knows what you're going to do, you're fucked.



if you want to be the master, don't fuck up your build with silly shield points or even worse..... throwing.....



and yes there is one more thing, not everyone can become a master of the 2h.
so if you're a try-hard 2h then you should go and search for another profession.




Ill write a longer guide later on.

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Re: 2handers guide
« Reply #73 on: April 15, 2011, 09:40:45 pm »
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if you want to be a master of the 2h. (like me MHUAHAHAHAHA)
who is this guy? :mrgreen:

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Re: 2handers guide
« Reply #74 on: April 15, 2011, 09:59:12 pm »
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who is this guy? :mrgreen:

No idea   8-)

Probably some peasant...

^Probably shouldn't troll in this thread, but i think everything has been said.
 I used to be a somewhat decent melee player, but skills has decayed due to me not playing that much (stalking forum/people > playing)

The only way to improve is to train and observe other players (unless you are a creative type that invents attack patterns etc:p)
 There are several techniques you can use to gain a upper hand against your opponent.

* Spam
* Feint (The first real techniques players tend to learn)
* Delayed attacks (Forcing your phase, and aggressive players like myself gets thrown off their game)
* Spins/floor mopping (Used by more experienced players to mask their attacks)
* Flurry (Similar to spam, but instead of spamming wildly, you use 2 attacks that works flawlessly together. Not giving the opponent a chance to strike back. Ex: Right swing -> Thrust)
* Chambers (easy to learn, hard to master. It is a very situational technique, but can turn the tide of the battle. Perhaps not commonly known: You can chamber a thrust with a overhead strike)
 * Delayed Chambers (When you chamber, the more experienced players will instantly block the chamber, but if you delay the strike after a chamber, you can sometimes surprise them)
 * Chamber delayed attacks (Probably the hardest technique to do on commando, i think Alex_c was close to perfecting this)




 
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