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[Sellka]

Agreed, and it does not help when you run straight at them.  All depends on the archer,and your build, tin cans are easy pray for an archer, Slow, easy to see and a five to six bodkins later from a long bow and hes practicly dead, archers are more of a support class. Before they nerfed the archery to shit, I was able to shoot into a fight and help out the melee in a fight, but bitches complain too much

[Old_Sir_Agor]

I never said anything about running speed or about headshots. Again, you did not read what I wrote.

than stop posting here, all your post are about how easy to play rangedm and you decided it because some big amount of time ago you have played it 2-3 gens, and all what you know about now is 10 kills.

[Arrowblood]

Close this thread please ADMINS.

[polkafranzi]

Since the first few pages of serious posts and arguments (i.e. fail that I get headshot with 60 head armor but no helmet archer survives overhead with +3 morningstar)...since that, everything has gone so off-topic, just lock this shit already and just nerf HS damage 10% but make Longbow range/accuracy better or something that's the vibe i'm getting.

[Kafein]

The way archery is related to wpf forces archers to be dedicated which causes the kiting, and kiting is bad.


There are plenty other things that are wrong with archery but I think this is the most important and the one nearly everybody agrees with.

[Smoothrich]

i think archer heirlooms need a look at as well, i think it makes them too strong

[Turk_Otto_Knight]

Arrows should be get heavier so they cant run like chickens 

[Garem]

The way archery is related to wpf forces archers to be dedicated which causes the kiting, and kiting is bad.


There are plenty other things that are wrong with archery but I think this is the most important and the one nearly everybody agrees with.

This is a very good example of where you can say something like it's a fact when it couldn't be further from the truth, on both accounts.

Oh, and @Smoothrich, I think you're partially right. Non-heirloom bows and arrows definitely ARE underpowered, but heirloomed bows and arrows really aren't all that overpowered. Then again, it costs 6 heirloom points to reach maximum damage effectiveness, twice as much as any other weapon (barring arguments of horse-speed-as-weapon-bonus).

[Zisa]

Here's my favourite unpopular idea...

Make projectiles unretrievable.

[polkafranzi]

Here's my favourite unpopular idea...

Make projectiles unretrievable.

Now for mine:

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[Adamar]

- Trade the extra loomed arrow damage for more arrows and leave the bows as they are.

- Make the armor penalty to accuracy not as punishing, especially with helmets, so that archers can reach their full efficiency as part melee and not kite.

- Maybe enforce only 1 bag or arrows for everyone, if possible, so a better ballance between different types of archers can be reached, and the pure archer build encouraged. The number of arrows per quiver would increase in this case.

The devs wanted to get rid of hybrids, thus the ultimate archer right now can only be a kitter/pure shooter. The slot system already prevents op hybrids, so lets reballance the class in a way that everyone can agree on.

[Zisa]

- Trade the extra loomed arrow damage for more arrows and leave the bows as they are.

- Make the armor penalty to accuracy not as punishing, especially with helmets, so that archers can reach their full efficiency as part melee and not kite.

- Maybe enforce only 1 bag or arrows for everyone, if possible, so a better ballance between different types of archers can be reached, and the pure archer build encouraged. The number of arrows per quiver would increase in this case.

The devs wanted to get rid of hybrids, thus the ultimate archer right now can only be a kitter/pure shooter. The slot system already prevents op hybrids, so lets reballance the class in a way that everyone can agree on.

they couldna gree on the color of shite

[Jambi]

Do eeet! Nerf Archery!

[polkafranzi]

Do eeet! Nerf Archery!

Deal closed tyvm that's all we needed.

Lock eet!

[Elmetiacos]

Here's my favourite unpopular idea...

Make projectiles unretrievable.

Retrieval is a problem for throwing lances in particular and overcomes the low ammo limitation - a thrower aims one at you, you back off and he advances, retrieving lances to throw again until one of them hits you. Throwing lances make little sense anyway... a spear in someone's hand does less damage than a thrown one which has left someone's hand and so is decelerating?