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Skip The Fun Doesn't Skip the Fun
« on: May 02, 2012, 05:01:21 pm »
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You skip the fun and get taken to Level 30. But you are not a proper level 30 character, because you have only 10,000 in gold, which is a fairly small amount; what you might expect to have for a character about level 15, perhaps. So you must grind anyway to earn enough gold to buy decent gear! Why not increase the STF amount a little, to say 25,000?
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Re: Skip The Fun Doesn't Skip the Fun
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2012, 06:35:12 pm »
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YES PLEASE!
Giving only 10000 Gold seems totally arbitrary and is insufficient to actually try some unique builds (like, arbalestrier - needs 20k gold, and leeds to useless grinding).

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Re: Skip The Fun Doesn't Skip the Fun
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2012, 06:36:56 pm »
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ide say just make it to 15,000. 10,000 isnt enough, and 25,000 would be rediculous.
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Re: Skip The Fun Doesn't Skip the Fun
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2012, 06:40:19 pm »
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Your title should say skip the fun, really does skip the fun.  You have it backwards.
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Re: Skip The Fun Doesn't Skip the Fun
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2012, 06:42:01 pm »
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15 doesn't change anything. it should be like 40 imo.

if the sense is to avoid grind and/or try out new chars.
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Re: Skip The Fun Doesn't Skip the Fun
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2012, 06:45:20 pm »
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if it was 40,000 then everyone would be riding around on horses and heavy armor and a bunch of craziness.
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Re: Skip The Fun Doesn't Skip the Fun
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2012, 07:25:33 pm »
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if it was 40,000 then everyone would be riding around on horses and heavy armor and a bunch of craziness.
On their STF random "lets try a build" chars? Am I the only one who don't see an issue in someone trying out a build requiring expensive equipment for a few days?
BTW: I make a new STF once a week, and for me, being high level but having to grind is even worse than the low level fun, on my current STF I spent a few hours naked with an Italian Falchion, saving up for a warspear, some cheap body armor (the white surcoat over mail), and a hounskull bascinet, grinding with a high level char is 100 times more frustrating than playing on my level 12 alt with a leather jacket, a longsword, and a black hood, heck I even enjoyed playing without yet distributing stats getting (three in total on this char with 0 stats) kills with my khyber knife on the same alt, but on my stfs by the time I'm done grinding them I just feel so damn tired of them I don't play them no more... (on my dueling twohander stfs I even only grind my slightly above medium armor and just spawn with a sickle and loot, and even doing this small grinding on a high level char leaves a sick taste in my mouth)

I say give STFs 100k... (if upkeep is the issue then remove all but 5k of their cash three hours after STF creation so we don't get upkeep escapists) I don't wanna grind when I'm trying out a new build...

And the only STF grinding didn't make me so sick of that I never used the build on an alt or my main, a level 25 alt, with gold, respec'd and STF'd it, that alt was Serpeant_Zlisch_The_Slippery, AKA, my first horse thrower.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2012, 07:28:12 pm by Zlisch_The_Butcher »
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: Skip The Fun Doesn't Skip the Fun
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2012, 07:32:14 pm »
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The problem is that if you give someone 40 or 100k gold, now they are able to have some really expensive, high-end gear.  For me to make 40k would take me quite a long time in very low-tier gear.  If someone can just STF and never have to worry about money, seems a little unfair.

I think 10k gold is fine, maybe move to 15k...but for the most part, c-rpg works fine. don't need to change shit.

You guys do understand what these three words mean right?

SKIP.  THE.  FUN.  If you need to grind to make money, you're not having fun...hence you skipping the fun.  The name fits perfectly.
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Re: Skip The Fun Doesn't Skip the Fun
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2012, 07:34:50 pm »
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If someone can just STF and never have to worry about money, seems a little unfair.
Read my suggestion to remove all but 5k after the char has been stf'd for three hours, then people still wouldn't be able to eternally support tincaness by STFin'.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: Skip The Fun Doesn't Skip the Fun
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2012, 07:35:25 pm »
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So, if your idea was implemented, zlisch. What i could do is make a STF, about 33 strength? plated charger and decent armor and have fun for 3 hours? I kinda believe that grinding for gold is fine for a STF since you are already are at level 30, which is where most people stop leveling.
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Re: Skip The Fun Doesn't Skip the Fun
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2012, 07:38:31 pm »
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40 k gives you heavy medium equipment. And don't forget the upkeep. Giving people the money to have equipment that makes them go even with upkeep is not changing anything compared to normal builds. Really, that would be a sensible mark - just enough money to try the build and equipment that you would actually play on a normal char.

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Re: Skip The Fun Doesn't Skip the Fun
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2012, 07:38:39 pm »
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So, if your idea was implemented, zlisch. What i could do is make a STF, about 33 strength? plated charger and decent armor and have fun for 3 hours? I kinda believe that grinding for gold is fine for a STF since you are already are at level 30, which is where most people stop leveling.
Yeah, three hours of careless fun, sounds horrible.  :shock:
But seriously: Pro tip, 33 str build with 5 riding is impossible (and if it's possible then you'd have no ps or wm or shield, nothing but 5 riding skill)
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: Skip The Fun Doesn't Skip the Fun
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2012, 07:48:00 pm »
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eh, whatever, just an example.  and what about the new players to crpg, they just get beat around by tin cans and crap? and it wouldnt be 3 hours of fun, it would be 3 hours of annoyance and frustration. and CRPG doesnt need anymore of that.
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Re: Skip The Fun Doesn't Skip the Fun
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2012, 08:08:39 pm »
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eh, whatever, just an example.  and what about the new players to crpg, they just get beat around by tin cans and crap? and it wouldnt be 3 hours of fun, it would be 3 hours of annoyance and frustration. and CRPG doesnt need anymore of that.
3 hours with no upkeep or money impact and being able to buy pretty much whatever gear you want is frustration? No, having to leech naked with an italian falchion for three hours so I can buy my armor on an alt which otherwise got a ready gear set 'n' all is frustration...
and about new players, you are aware most meleers wear medium armor knowing it's the best armor with armor-speed-(no one gives a fuck about cost) right? Tincan isn't as op as people think (I performed better on an alt same build with longsword 'n' peasant clothes than with longsword 'n' tincan suit, also, new players are just as capable of STFin' as old players, you are aware of that, right? And what's so bad about a few fun tincans here 'n' there?
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: Skip The Fun Doesn't Skip the Fun
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2012, 08:14:16 pm »
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I suggest 25,000 because that's enough to buy one key expensive item, whether it's a high end weapon or heavy armour, but wouldn't allow "crutch on gear" activity; 100k would have everyone on plated chargers wearing Churburgs, whereas 15000 isn't really enough: there are plenty of items which cost more than 15000 on their own.
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