Frank was right!

[Jarlek]

Join the engineer fight! Grab a c-site!

Yes Xynox, just not by creating a weapon rack and then spamming them out.

I think you can still get new ones from a weapon rack as long as you don't place more than one at the same place.

[Rumblood]

NOT OK: Creating a weapon rack and spawning more than a few items to block movement

Like I said, it gets into a discussion over what constitutes "spam" or in this case "a few". Even if I were to give the leeway Zilch has said that the EU admins give of 3 only, you still can't spawn as many as you like. Often it is going to depend upon the situation.
I'm going to be very flexible on this, but like I said, there is no hard and fast rule.

[XyNox]

Join the engineer fight! Grab a c-site!
I think you can still get new ones from a weapon rack as long as you don't place more than one at the same place.

This is what I was trying to say. In my opinion getting 4 CS's out of a weapon rack and placing all of them on different locations is valid. Id interpret the rule as "you are not allowed to spam one location full of CS's".

[Ubereem]

Who was it? He sounds like a man worth his salt. I may have played with him on EU a week back...

dude i cannot remember except it was a really long name(i do remember a fails or snails or milks or some shit like that in the second part of his name), he wore all black as well with black mask. NA siege. also I am a regular and this was the first time I met the guy or seen him

::::also just to clarify he did not spam more than 1 CS per stairs, he was a legit badass fair-playing engineer. with our entire team basically defending the choke points we didnt need to spam or exploit.

[Erzengel]

I don't think that hiding behind 3 construction sides and spamming endless Throwing Lances out of a weapon rack should be allowed... Thats just retarded...

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

Why is it "...just retarded..."?

The weapons racks die in one shot, building them takes time and you are completely vulnerable 90% of the time. Knocking out a siege camp isn't really any harder than taking a wall. The real issue most people will face is that as more people learn engineering and use it as a class teams will start to work around them and use them to the full out of instinct and then the disorganised pubstars trying to take on the semi organised side will get slaughtered, but that's no worse than when a large clan like the Hospis come on in full force using team speak to abuse each other into higher level of performance.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

dude i cannot remember except it was a really long name(i do remember a fails or snails or milks or some shit like that in the second part of his name), he wore all black as well with black mask. NA siege. also I am a regular and this was the first time I met the guy or seen him

It was nails (don't remember his entire name, it's harder to remember then how to spell Zlisch for a lot of people, played EU siege with the guy, was fun.

[Erzengel]

Why is it "...just retarded..."?

The weapons racks die in one shot, building them takes time and you are completely vulnerable 90% of the time. Knocking out a siege camp isn't really any harder than taking a wall. The real issue most people will face is that as more people learn engineering and use it as a class teams will start to work around them and use them to the full out of instinct and then the disorganised pubstars trying to take on the semi organised side will get slaughtered, but that's no worse than when a large clan like the Hospis come on in full force using team speak to abuse each other into higher level of performance.

Yeah very funny when one guy throws down 20 Throwing lances (which onehit very often) from a wall and you absolutely have no chance hitting his stupid weapon rack because it is out of sight. Have fun getting up that ladder... I have nothing against your "new class". Go ahead and build Healing Tents, Spawnpoints, Siege Shields and even some Construction Sites. But having endless Throwing weapons is just retarded.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Yeah very funny when one guy throws down 20 Throwing lances (which onehit very often) from a wall and you absolutely have no chance hitting his stupid weapon rack because it is out of sight. Have fun getting up that ladder... I have nothing against your "new class". Go ahead and build Healing Tents, Spawnpoints, Siege Shields and even some Construction Sites. But having endless Throwing weapons is just retarded.

No, l2shield, bitch.

[Jarlek]

Erzengel buthurt?

[Erzengel]

No, l2shield, bitch.

You are not the problem Zlisch, you are too bad anyways...    By the way 1 or 2 shieldskill won't help against it, so better shut the fuck up.

Erzengel buthurt?

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

You are not the problem Zlisch, you are too bad anyways...    By the way 1 or 2 shieldskill won't help against it, so better shut the fuck up.

Stand behind a shielder when going up that ladder, it takes 4+ throwing lances against most shielders, so... you could also use the room on the ladder to dodge a bit...
Oh and I'm gonna ignore that comment about me being bad, seeing as odds are I can kill you in throwing, melee, and my old friendchery.