A good polearm to use with a shield?

[callahan9119]

After messing around with a few characters, I'm leaning towards making a hoplite type character...spear/shield with medium armor. What is a good pole to use in combination with a shield? I'm not going for the most kills or the baddest dude in Calradia award, I'm hoping he is more of a support guy who can keep enemies busy so all those crazy bastards swinging two-handers can finish them and so I can stab horses to death. A pole that can also be swung well 2 handed would be good too...just in case.

Build ideas would be great too, I'm totally lost when it comes to planning this stuff.

Many thanks.

[Vexus]

Fauchard, Military Scythe, Red Tassel Spear or War Spear.

[callahan9119]

Thanks, how many points do you think I should put into shield? I don't wanna go overboard but I wanna get at least a useful amount.

[ArchonAlarion]

Ashwood pike - Range, but unsheathable

Battlefork - Best thrust damage, good if your shield breaks and looks cool

Warspear - Speed

Red Tassel - better seed than warspear, but less damage

[Digglez]

as mentioned above, warspear/redtassel.  anything shorter and you are asking to get stabbed by 2h swords and lanced since you do not have long enough range

light lance and ashwood pike are also pretty good hoplite weapons.  Light lance is on par with ashwood at half the price.


Best advice I can give a hoplite, is only use your shield when its absolutely needed.  Use 2h's unless you are taking ranged fire or about to get surrounded.  30% dmg penalt means you wont be contributing much other than stunning people.


GUGNIR SPEARMAN:  like a wall of icicle daggers, keeping the enemy at bay until the time to strike is right
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Strength: 15
Agility: 21
Hit points: 60
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 5
Athletics: 7
Weapon Master: 7
Polearm: 164

[Vexus]

I would say 5-6 in shield.

Why high you might ask? There are many 2h people true, many of these people attack mindlessly without caring who is near them and having more shield skill will deal less damage to the shield.

[callahan9119]

Hey thanks guys, big help.

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[Grumbs]

Quite a few options, but I'd go with War Spear if you must have side swings, Ashwood pike if not. You do less damage and are slower when you use the spear in 1 hand (with shield) but you gain some range and are safer. Consider a Long Spear (no shield) too, you can stay safe and poke from range. Stab horses in the head to make them rear

[callahan9119]

Are pikes and other 200+ reach poles to large to use with a shield? Money is precious to me atm, so I can't really experiment.

[Tears of Destiny]

Bamboo spear is the longest you can use a shield with (but can't be sheathed), Awlpike is no longer an option (was removed, thankfully), and nothing else worth mentioning can be sued with a shield (certainly not pikes or long spears).

[Kafein]

Are pikes and other 200+ reach poles to large to use with a shield? Money is precious to me atm, so I can't really experiment.

You can only use :
spear
war spear
bamboo spear (ofc  )
red tassel
lances
fauchard
scythe
forks
staves
ashwood pike

with a shield.

[callahan9119]

Why does everyone have that emo chick as their avatar?

[Digglez]

while bamboo is the longest you can use with shield (200 reach) it will also do practically no damage and bounce and do nothing at all a large part of the time.

[Vexus]

They aren't sheathable else I would probably choose the lance if I wanted a spear with shield that is long. (Plus it has 30 pierce )

[callahan9119]

This game is really starting to depress me. 37 deaths, no kills. Granted I'm still using the pitchfork and beginning armor because I'm saving for the light lance...but still. Not even  a lucky shot on a wounded guy. I just got enough for the lance and a decent chest piece, so I hope things turn around.

Should I get a shorter spear then the lance...do longer weapons make less impactful blows? Wondering if I should just get a long ass pike and forget the shield.