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Re: I know you hate horseman but...
« Reply #45 on: April 11, 2012, 05:13:19 am »
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I love reading this  :twisted:  So if I'm getting charged, should I aim my shot at the legs, rather than the head?

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Re: I know you hate horseman but...
« Reply #46 on: April 11, 2012, 06:09:07 am »
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arabian xbow cav multiply like maggots spewing forth from a peasant corpse and become flies impossible to swat due to massive agility.

The leg damage buff very rarely applies to them, since they never have to be near any enemy unit at any time.

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Re: I know you hate horseman but...
« Reply #47 on: April 11, 2012, 07:19:15 am »
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Dont you guys even dare threaten to nerf my champion Arabian! It's already ridiculous that I have to go to 7 riding and it costs more than a courser does and it's only a 100 gold less than a destrier and one point slower. Which in my opinion is stupid since it has less armor which should make it lighter -____- but in any case as it goes for 2h cav I'm the horse Xbow slayer with my horse. I have yet to find a horse archer hat can get away from me. And as for taking so many arrows a lot of the time it's only because I can minimize the damage by riding away from the projectiles while if I'm charging them. Let's just chestaclese laser war darts one shotted my Arabian :(((
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Re: I know you hate horseman but...
« Reply #48 on: April 11, 2012, 07:53:47 am »
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     Please guys this is bullshit. HS from throwing lance to my cataphract took 55% hp away, but what is funny, 1 hit of 1h weapon to the legs of my horsie took the same dmg....

what's even funnier is
when i try to hit you in the horse's legs like you said
i get stopped by the forcefield of the shield
that was not even close to horse's legs
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Re: I know you hate horseman but...
« Reply #49 on: April 20, 2012, 01:43:15 am »
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and thats another one joke of cav story
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Re: I know you hate horseman but...
« Reply #50 on: April 20, 2012, 02:23:46 am »
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dunno man i realy hate when i need to hit 5-6 hits with my lance to kill that armored horse or +3 destrier. I would not touch anything in this mode.

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Re: I know you hate horseman but...
« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2012, 02:26:18 am »
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what's even funnier is
when i try to hit you in the horse's legs like you said
i get stopped by the forcefield of the shield
that was not even close to horse's legs
yeah that shit actualy can apsorb couched lance even if it miss shield by 1 mile. I realy hate when that happen in game too.

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Re: I know you hate horseman but...
« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2012, 02:29:02 am »
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But 1h/2h cav are the most fucked here.

They can't balance horses by lancers/HA/HC/HT only, the 1h/2h cav need to go melee range to attack and if 1-2 slashes can down an armoured horse what is the point on using such an expensive horse?

+3 rouncey dies from 3-4 arrows or 2 bolts. I used war horse and that beast could take 4-6 arrows before it goes down,bump dmg is much higher,they can take 4-5 lance hits from close range,so that horse isn't usless at all.

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Re: I know you hate horseman but...
« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2012, 11:43:02 am »
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If you spent some more time to read my post properly you would have noticed I said slashes not arrows/bolts.

Horses got a huge nerf in their legs for melee weapons.

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Re: I know you hate horseman but...
« Reply #54 on: April 20, 2012, 01:13:17 pm »
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Horses got a huge nerf in their legs for melee weapons.

This is true but sadly none of the dev are cav and they all hate cav so who cares?

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Re: I know you hate horseman but...
« Reply #55 on: April 20, 2012, 01:18:39 pm »
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no i think the devs have a good idea of how fucking OP cav is just by looking at the damage dealt by mounted weapons every week and the like

also any good cav player who isn't a troll or an idiot can admit cav is brokenly powerful no matter what you do with it

game sucks unless they nerf the shit out of archery and cav
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Re: I know you hate horseman but...
« Reply #56 on: April 20, 2012, 02:23:22 pm »
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The problem is, cavalry is the class that has the best backstabber potential. So devs, try to nerf them so everything can be balanced. However, the problem is heavily armored horses suffer much significantly from it. So my suggestion,
Lower the speed of heavy horses significantly and increase their leg armor.

So they will be able to charge openly, unless the enemy has pikes. If the enemy have pikes, wait and attack from behind but with less of a surprise this time. However, since the enemy formation will be fucked up as the battle goes; the enemy awareness is less of a problem.

And yes, please buff throwing against horses. I mean, fix it.
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Re: I know you hate horseman but...
« Reply #57 on: April 20, 2012, 04:10:25 pm »
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no i think the devs have a good idea of how fucking OP cav is just by looking at the damage dealt by mounted weapons every week and the like

also any good cav player who isn't a troll or an idiot can admit cav is brokenly powerful no matter what you do with it

game sucks unless they nerf the shit out of archery and cav

Wrong, mounted polearm weapons did like 13% of total damage dealt 2 or 3 months ago, according to stats cmp posted.  The other mounted weapons were basically scratching the surface:

NA1 - Battle stats:

TwoHander           9,277,779  24.50%
Polearm             7,929,018  20.93%
OneHander           5,576,296  14.72%
Polearm (mounted)   4,772,240  12.60%
Bow                 3,644,565  9.62%
Crossbow            1,932,102  5.10%
Thrown              1,554,781  4.10%
Crossbow (mounted)  989,434    2.61%
OneHander (mounted) 902,528    2.38%
TwoHander (mounted) 704,806    1.86%
Bow (mounted)       514,014    1.36%
Thrown (mounted)    78,197     0.21%

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Re: I know you hate horseman but...
« Reply #58 on: April 20, 2012, 04:18:21 pm »
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lance cav doing more damage then all shielders in the game and almost as much total damage as ranged classes combined

yah that is balanced

nerf cav

also, heavy cav is still horribly OP, it never wasn't
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Re: I know you hate horseman but...
« Reply #59 on: April 20, 2012, 06:07:38 pm »
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You can move around the battle field faster than ground troops...you can pick when you engage and make sure you have the advantage.  It makes perfect sense to me.  I don't think it's OP either.  Every time the enemy team forms some sort of a formation with their infantry then the cavalry are only able to pick off the stragglers too stupid to work as a team.

Cavalry isn't OP (nothing in the game is).  The problem is retarded infantry not forming up into decent ranks and fighting as groups.  Stupidity to counter a natural strength doesn't mean that an item is OP.
 
2handers do twice as much damage as mounted polearms, so by your logic, they are OP and need to be nerfed.   :rolleyes:

Everything in the game has strengths and weaknesses, if someone is too stupid to counter a natural "strength" of an item, that's their own damn fault.  Not everything in the game should be "balanced", you should have to decide what strengths you want, and accept the weaknesses that come with them. That's what makes c-rpg so great (in theory), but with every nerf there becomes less distinction between one item and the next, or one class and the next.
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