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Increase Long volouge over head cut

From 37 to 40
14 (25%)
From 37 to 42
32 (57.1%)
Leave it as is, or the option straight above this one. Totally up to you.
9 (16.1%)
Lower its req to 15str
1 (1.8%)

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Long Voulge
« on: March 15, 2012, 10:15:17 am »
+6
The removle of side swings to the LV has been a pretty huge nerf on a weapon that has only ever been, okay.
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Edit

I've spent a bit of time going over this, thing.

I've come to a completely different conclusion than my original one.

Leave it unbalanced, leave it slow as balls, keep its completely useless poke, and in compensation for it only really having one attack direction that can't be used from the high ground on hills, or on stairs and even when you can use it, the jengy piece of antediluvian shit gets jammed in the ground of wiffs on some duded accidentally trolling your behind, or funnier still you smack some poor bloke behind you with it when he walks into your swing and he Ms you out of ignorance and rage.

So keeping all that in mind, the idea is that when you finally, mostly through luck land a shot on some poor bastard, the thing is a real melon popper and you get all mono-directional medieval on his ass.

By buffing its over head damage it makes it different from the Swiss Hal, but leaves it with its plethora of draw backs. It shouldn't make it op because you still send a telegram anytime you bloody swing it, getting over headed by the LV either means you a) can't block or b) just got poked by a pike, very rarely it means c) I clang bangered you good (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,28769.0.html).

So in closing, it shouldn't make it OP, but it will give it a lovely little niche roll as a team killing machine... I mean as a support weapon. Great for standing your ground and smashing those pesky shields on the shield wall.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2012, 10:10:18 am by FRANK_THE_TANK »
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Re: Long Voulge
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2012, 12:45:22 am »
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This weapon is completely fucked now. It can only be used against retards and some times in massive groups, but half the time it catches on a friendly behind you and gets blocked in the cluster fucks.

The thrust does no damage its like the thrust on the katana. Its a trap, if you use it and it gets blocked it a free hit for your opponent. The speed of the Swiss makes it work, but this is super slow, has a thrust that does nothing and only 2 attack directions... oh wait, 1. Its the only weapon in the game that only has an over head. FUCKING FIX IT FFS!
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Re: Long Voulge
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2012, 01:09:40 am »
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Also I just did some testing of the over heads catching on the guy behind you. The weapon is a good foot above their head... This has been an issue for a long time, its been bitched about tirelessly. But it really fucks the strat battles up have 2h and pole arm over heads reduced to useless once your in an actual formation.

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Re: Long Voulge
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2012, 01:11:17 am »
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love the voulge or suffer countless cactus BJ!!!!
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Re: Long Voulge
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2012, 04:06:47 pm »
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And another thing!

Was thinking about the Voulge and reading about it vs Glaives and other medieval polearms.

Put its speed up to 88 and the weight up to 5 (or at least 4.5) leave all the other crap the same, that will at least give it something.
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Re: Long Voulge
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2012, 05:25:05 pm »
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The poll results seem quite clear.
If it kills me, it's OP.

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Re: Long Voulge
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2012, 06:19:17 pm »
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I think a lot of people chose the last option, because it just was too funny :P

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Re: Long Voulge
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2012, 02:15:18 am »
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Well my looms do consist of a LV at the moment lol.
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Re: Long Voulge
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2012, 02:38:43 pm »
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The crowd demands to remove them NOAW!  :lol:
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Re: Long Voulge
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2012, 10:07:25 am »
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Fine, I hate democracy.
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Re: Long Voulge
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2012, 10:12:56 am »
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Re: Long Voulge
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2012, 10:18:25 am »
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I won't be satisfied with these petty damage increases. Give it back side swings. Get rid of the overhead and thrust if you have to keep it at two attack directions.
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Re: Long Voulge
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2012, 10:55:01 am »
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I won't be satisfied with these petty damage increases. Give it back side swings. Get rid of the overhead and thrust if you have to keep it at two attack directions.

lol, I assume that's a fine troll your trolling. How trolly.

I should go remove the, leave it how it is option. Never good to let people voice their ill thought out opinions, that's why forums will be banned when I am king, and all your moths will be sewn shut!

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Re: Long Voulge
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2012, 07:51:20 pm »
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lol, I assume that's a fine troll your trolling. How trolly.

No, not at all. Without the sideswings the Long Voulge just isn't the weapon it was born to be. I have a +2 sitting in my inventory, waiting for the day they bring them back. Overhead and thrust are awful, tasteless jokes. The true Long Voulge Master Race will not be satisfied with anything less than bringing back side-swings.

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Re: Long Voulge
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2012, 11:33:49 pm »
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Oh I didn't take it like that, it was just the idea of side swings only. I would love to be able to leap about loping peoples heads off :D

I found an interesting bug yesterday. Use it in DTV and you to will see the bug, the bots think its going to stab no matter what attck you use, so they just walk at you and get slapped in the head, now if only I was rolling a 27/12 :/ my 18 6PS can one hit the first 3 waves and then it all goes to poo.

But I do agree it is a truly awful weapon that I am now fixated with :( I really don't get why the left to right was removed, was it really op? I mean its so slow! Once they are at the tip of the LV you can't attack them any more you have to run away or do what I do and yank out a dagger.
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