I didn't even see your faction participate. To whom u lost 8k troops?
Early on in strat, our war with tkov, then our assist in knocking Fallen out of steppes, and then our brief occupation of kwynn.
during our war, and all that jazz with Tkov, we lost 2500 tickets, we lost another 1500 taking those villages. We lost about 400 fighting fallen in the steppes, we lost a random amount to the goons (never counted), we lost another 700 when we lost kwynn to fallen, 250 to chaos, 450 to the furyblades. So rough count it's 5.7k, yea not 8k but i'm sure if i counted a lot of our battles we lost more, but those are just the big ones. We'll probably lose another 900 or so at some point.
and that doesn't count the fact we never had much money to fund armies after getting driven from our initial holdings.
(Faction is HATE, we are kinda independent. We've worked with Hosp for awhile now)
And it's not a META faction, it's only 33 guys and that's including our 8 inactives....