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CLASSIFIED Beyond Top Secret. The Ping Burst Weapon
« on: February 08, 2012, 01:10:07 pm »
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Hello!

I would like to discuss the possibilites of a new weapon that may or may not have found it's way into C-rpg.
I have a fairly stable ping at around 40, it usually stays that way except for when my computer download certain updates or request other automatic internet services.

But sometimes in battle I have noticed that the ping spikes just for a very short while, just as one have encoutered the enemy, resulting in one's death. The fast burst that one recieve varies from somewhere between 50+ ping to 300+ ping. And I know it's not an update, as they usually make the lag persist way longer, and I know when an update occurs.
It's also strange that everything remains perfectly smooth... until one encounters the enemy. (Don't need to be a big group either)
I believe others have encountered the same "anomaly", if you have please say so.

I want to know if there is any possibility, at all, that you can send an opponent a "package" or in any other way increase their ping for a very short while, just long enough to kill them?
Perhaps as an sophisticated outside "hacker" program interacting with the server, making sure the user can push a button to send a quick lag burst spike to his opponent?
If there is such a program, this is a great security threat that should be dealt with.

This is all tin-foil hat crackhead nutbag talk right? Well so was autoblock too. I'm not good at computers, but is this even possible?
Either way, I think someone should look into it, as I'm sure others have experienced the same thing.





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Re: CLASSIFIED Beyond Top Secret. The Ping Burst Weapon
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2012, 01:15:02 pm »
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Definitely the ping gun
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Re: CLASSIFIED Beyond Top Secret. The Ping Burst Weapon
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2012, 01:18:16 pm »
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I often encounter this fenomenon,  charging with my horse towards any enemy,  and just before reaching him I get a spike,  a lag,  and next thing I know is my horse is killed and im flying through the air
also happens on foot before striking/blocking.

I am guessing its just a normal lag spike though,  and noticing it over any other lag spike just happens because it gets you killed.
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Re: CLASSIFIED Beyond Top Secret. The Ping Burst Weapon
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2012, 01:26:15 pm »
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I often encounter this fenomenon,  charging with my horse towards any enemy,  and just before reaching him I get a spike,  a lag,  and next thing I know is my horse is killed and im flying through the air
also happens on foot before striking/blocking.

I am guessing its just a normal lag spike though,  and noticing it over any other lag spike just happens because it gets you killed.

This kind of rubberbanding has been happening in Warband MP since the earliest betas, and approaching enemies was always a factor in it for some reason. It's not a hack, just some kind of issue with the engine or netcode.
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Re: CLASSIFIED Beyond Top Secret. The Ping Burst Weapon
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2012, 01:29:09 pm »
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i didnt think it was,  thanks for clarifying : )

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Re: CLASSIFIED Beyond Top Secret. The Ping Burst Weapon
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2012, 01:30:09 pm »
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Do you honestly think you have any sort of moral authority, Reyiz? Go genocide some more armenians and deny it ever happened, please, and stay in the middle east.
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Re: CLASSIFIED Beyond Top Secret. The Ping Burst Weapon
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2012, 01:30:24 pm »
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It's not a hack, it's a technique that requires you to perform a specific combination of moves. It's very complex and situational, but certain players have mastered it and are able to use it at their advantage. It's also very risky: a single mistake will render you unable to block until you die. It's called Za Pinguspaiku.

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Re: CLASSIFIED Beyond Top Secret. The Ping Burst Weapon
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2012, 01:35:02 pm »
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there is no need for such weapons. my ping rates are already fucked up by my shitty 3rd world internet provider.
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Re: CLASSIFIED Beyond Top Secret. The Ping Burst Weapon
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2012, 01:35:27 pm »
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Do you maybe have a proper MP3 of this Oliver Onion's masterpiece: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1Q38sHp0SY:wink:

I only have the 70ies and early 80ies mp3s,  sorry mate.  think chronologically the last one would be supercop.
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Re: CLASSIFIED Beyond Top Secret. The Ping Burst Weapon
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2012, 02:04:00 pm »
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Lets just think about this for a second.

At your end you would need some kind of AOE program that could track the ip of everyone near you. Seems like that is something that would have to be server side.

Perhaps you could intercept all the ip address add yours to an exclusion list and then DDoS everyone anytime you got into combat or trouble. But if that was happening then everyone would notice rather constant ping variations... Not to mention that would be a pretty tall order, everytime they would have to pull those numbers out of the server...

They could just DDoS the server but thats like letting off a nuke to stop yourself from being slaped, but in this metephore your sitting on the nuke.

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Re: CLASSIFIED Beyond Top Secret. The Ping Burst Weapon
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2012, 02:28:27 pm »
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My friend Jeff Vader always has 0 ping for some reason and he lives by me regardless of the server and he doesn't know why.

Just thought I'd add that.

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Re: CLASSIFIED Beyond Top Secret. The Ping Burst Weapon
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2012, 02:36:21 pm »
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It was happening to me as well. I switched to DX7 and it stopped but that was only fps lags i guess. Anyway you can try it as well...

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Re: CLASSIFIED Beyond Top Secret. The Ping Burst Weapon
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2012, 02:37:08 pm »
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Kinda related: I remember when I used to play Medal of Honour: Allied Assault on dial up. People would complain that AOL users made them lag when they came in close contact with them. I cant remember how or why this happened but I do remember that everyone just hated on AOL users  :P

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Re: CLASSIFIED Beyond Top Secret. The Ping Burst Weapon
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2012, 02:56:04 pm »
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There are some network anomalies here and there, but rather rare.

There are the usual strangeness of fighting someone with a high ping, or ultra-low ping (kinn i.ex). Then there are people with unstable ping, which is even weirder. The strangest thing is however some players that seem to badly connect with your player. I.ex on duel you will lag terribly against one player, but no one else will lag against him. Dunno what makes it happen.
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Re: CLASSIFIED Beyond Top Secret. The Ping Burst Weapon
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2012, 03:05:51 pm »
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Any reason for 0 ping on every server?