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Re: Version 0.270
« Reply #105 on: February 06, 2012, 08:02:42 pm »
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Use the +shield skill in shieldwall (as in strat) in battle mode (chadz) - closed.

Could be a good or bad thing.

I like that it promotes more teamwork (and shielders are crucial in a middle age battle field for protecting 2h's/archers from ranged).  But the forcefield on shields is pretty ridiculous as it is without the shield wall bonus.
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Re: Version 0.270
« Reply #106 on: February 06, 2012, 08:05:01 pm »
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Can we have the shieldwall bonus in Siege to make things interesting while doing organized defenses and assaults?

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Re: Version 0.270
« Reply #107 on: February 06, 2012, 08:08:39 pm »
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I think I enabled it in siege as well

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Re: Version 0.270
« Reply #108 on: February 06, 2012, 08:40:36 pm »
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How does the shieldwall bonus work exactly?

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Re: Version 0.270
« Reply #109 on: February 06, 2012, 08:47:26 pm »
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How does the shieldwall bonus work exactly?
If you and other shielders stand together you'll get a pink message saying shield +1, shield +2 etc. I think that means it adds +x to shield skill for the units in the wall when they're there?
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Re: Version 0.270
« Reply #110 on: February 06, 2012, 10:14:02 pm »
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cool stuff. Will we be able to disarm people soon?

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Re: Version 0.270
« Reply #111 on: February 06, 2012, 10:16:18 pm »
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What about the new armours and the stakes against cavalry?

And please, I would appreciate it very much if you could simply add to the server rules that roofcamping at any time is forbidden. I saw people throwing siege shields under their feet to get elevated onto low roofs, which again makes them immune to melee attacks unless they are the last person alive  :rolleyes:
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Re: Version 0.270
« Reply #112 on: February 06, 2012, 11:45:48 pm »
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But it is allowed in the rules.

Under glitching:
OK: hiding (e.g. in the hay)
NOT OK: hiding when last man standing (i.e. delaying)
OK: using a ladder to reach a roof that can't be reached normally
OK: camping unreachable places in the middle of the round
NOT OK: camping unreachable places when last group of men standing (i.e. delaying)
NOT OK: exploiting invisible barriers
NOT OK: going out of map bounds (if you can see unfinished parts of the map, then you should not be there)
NOT OK: ladderpulting
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Re: Version 0.270
« Reply #113 on: February 06, 2012, 11:49:32 pm »
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But it is allowed in the rules.

Under glitching:
OK: hiding (e.g. in the hay)
NOT OK: hiding when last man standing (i.e. delaying)
OK: using a ladder to reach a roof that can't be reached normally
OK: camping unreachable places in the middle of the round
NOT OK: camping unreachable places when last group of men standing (i.e. delaying)
NOT OK: exploiting invisible barriers
NOT OK: going out of map bounds (if you can see unfinished parts of the map, then you should not be there)
NOT OK: ladderpulting

When the rules are not just (and in this case you can add stupid, vaguely written and not up to date with modern issues), the people should to trespass them, right ?

Btw, I know this is part troll from you. I'm only responding to the part of your message which isn't trolling.

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Re: Version 0.270
« Reply #114 on: February 06, 2012, 11:55:31 pm »
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ToD, the last time the post got edited was on December 6th, way BEFORE the patch came out which removed the ladders. Or do you want to tell me that the developers deliberately left that paragraph in the rules for some reason?

Since the ladders got removed we can assume that developers agree with the majority of the community to not want to have roofcampers any more, so it would be the logical consequence to change the rules accordingly. We already have enough problems with roofs than can only be accessed by weird jumping actions which in many cases require you to simply know where to jump, as it's not obvious and probably found out by accident. Adding a simply line to the server rules would at least stop roofcamping enabled by siege shields. The alternative would be to either ignore it and still have roofcampers to some degree (which can be really annoying for everyone else, even if they do bad) or to find another solution of siege shields elevators, which in any case again needs gameplay changes that require coding.

Honestly, just rewrite the server rules, it's a matter of 30 seconds  :?
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Re: Version 0.270
« Reply #115 on: February 07, 2012, 12:16:55 am »
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lol, for a moment there I thought ladders were back on. Its way better now, we can jump to a roof from a hard spot, where the average noob cant and shoot people from there.

edit: and they can't complain now, because there are no ladders. :wink:
« Last Edit: February 07, 2012, 01:01:38 am by Adamar »

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Re: Version 0.270
« Reply #116 on: February 07, 2012, 12:43:42 am »
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Since the ladders got removed we can assume that developers agree with the majority of the community to not want to have roofcampers any more, so it would be the logical consequence to change the rules accordingly.

Wrong. Roof camping is allowed as long as it's not delaying, exactly like the rules say.

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Re: Version 0.270
« Reply #117 on: February 07, 2012, 12:44:46 am »
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Wrong. Roof camping is allowed as long as it's not delaying, exactly like the rules say.

Then why did you remove ladders?  :?
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Re: Version 0.270
« Reply #118 on: February 07, 2012, 12:50:10 am »
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Then why did you remove ladders?  :?

To help cut down the amount of camping or defense bypassing, which it did.
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Re: Version 0.270
« Reply #119 on: February 07, 2012, 10:09:52 am »
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I think rageball is too easy atm!

You have a good team with lots of agi whores and shoot one goal after goal and get x5 very easily!
Than i think there is the same time btw XP gain like in battles!
That makes Rageball a fast XP gaining game because u dont need much skill just ath!

maybe the devs can just make the time btw every xp gain a bit longer!
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