Division of Powers in CRPG and Checks and Balances System for Changes/Updates

[Christo]

This suggestion made me lol.

Seriously, it's so, so bad that I don't even want to list up the flaws.

Dev diagram made me lol even more, for how true it is.

[CrazyCracka420]

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waits for the +1's to roll in.

[Joker86]

Well, although I completely disagree with the suggestion, I don't think you should ridicule it that much, never mind how ridiculous it is (if you can say that on an objective base, at all).

Just point out that what the majority wants is not always the best, and in theory the class with the most players could nerf down all other classes to shit and then keep on dominating the servers.

[CrazyCracka420]

Well, although I completely disagree with the suggestion, I don't think you should ridicule it that much, never mind how ridiculous it is (if you can say that on an objective base, at all).

Just point out that what the majority wants is not always the best, and in theory the class with the most players could nerf down all other classes to shit and then keep on dominating the servers.

That's why majority rule isn't always a good system.  I'm not saying it would happen because most people have some morals and some compassion, but if everyone was ruthless and cut throat, technically a majority could just vote to take away the rights of the minority. 

I heard calls in the NA battle server yesterday that archers weren't nerfed enough, because the archers had the nerve to shoot people from 2 different angles at the same time.  Just because something may be a little "strong" doesn't mean it's unbalanced to the game play.  At what point do the devs say "well maybe it's just a lack of tactics on the players part, and not something wrong with this class or equipment"?  Apparently the answer is never.

[Casimir]

if you don't know who harald is, then your opinion is invalid.

[Christo]

Just point out that what the majority wants is not always the best, and in theory the class with the most players could nerf down all other classes to shit and then keep on dominating the servers.

Or, the house of EU is a lot bigger than the house of NA, and whenever a suggestion might pop up that's against EU for the better of NA for an example, get's downvoted to shit.
(This was only an example for a situation, don't start nitpicking over it.)

This happens in my country right now, that dumbass clown got in with like 75% politicians of his own and now abuses it like crazy, giving us a bad name in the EU. Sorry for offtopic, but I have an IRL example for this.

Also, giving someone decision making positions just because he did something, or is "veteran", is the dumbest idea I ever heard. Just because one is a veteran, seen more things, that doesn't automatically mean that he can do a particular role well.

[CrazyCracka420]

if you don't know who harald is, then your opinion is invalid.

So my assessment of nerf-rpg is incorrect?  Enlighten me exalted one.

[Joker86]

I heard calls in the NA battle server yesterday that archers weren't nerfed enough, because the archers had the nerve to shoot people from 2 different angles at the same time.  Just because something may be a little "strong" doesn't mean it's unbalanced to the game play.  At what point do the devs say "well maybe it's just a lack of tactics on the players part, and not something wrong with this class or equipment"?  Apparently the answer is never.

You are probably right on this, but I don't think the developers could care less about it. Thomek created a topic which got a lot of attention, and still not a single developer posted anything, neither if they want to support tactics at all, nor how they would do this. I was simply ignored.

On a completely different matter, I would like to see some kind of "developer's blog" concerning the balance decsions. I would like to know which statistics they have, which "tools" they use (be it real tools like programs or just "methods" as tools) and especially: why and how they want to achieve certain things in cRPG. THAT would be really interesting. 

[Christo]

So my assessment of nerf-rpg is incorrect?  Enlighten me.

chadz actually plays his mod, I remember fighting against him, and on my team as well.
Nowadays he might do it with secret alts, I don't know. So that's one wrong part.

Your opinion on Harald is funny. You know nothing about his work for the community, and fabricate something from your own thoughts.
FYI: He's taking care of the cRPG website.

Just some thoughts.

[CrazyCracka420]

chadz actually plays his mod, I remember fighting against him, and on my team as well.
Nowadays he might do it with secret alts, I don't know. So that's one wrong part.

Your opinion on Harald is funny. You know nothing about his work for the community, and fabricate something from your own thoughts.
FYI: He's taking care of the cRPG website.

Just some thoughts.

Well although I feel c-rpg nerfs way too much shit, and listens to the community way too much (i.e. "please nerf this") most of what I said was tongue in cheek.  I know sarcasm is lost on some people.  You really didn't get the joke when I said that he either doesn't play his own mod, or doesn't know what tactics are?  OBVIOUSLY he plays his own mod, so then I must be saying he has no idea what tactics are, and thinks that nerfs are the only way players will ever overcome a classes natural strengths....durrrr

And I didn't give an opinion of Harald...jesus no wonder this mod gets fucked over with every update with the intelligence on these forums.

It was supposed to be a funny, and still be somewhat thought provoking.

[Christo]

Well, you were the one who asked for correction. 

You've got it.

And I didn't give an opinion of Harald...jesus no wonder this mod gets fucked over with every update with the intelligence on these forums.

Want me to quote from your own remake of the picture?
"Never heard of him, apparently he also likes nerf-rpg and the direction it's going."

If that's not a (quite biased) opinion about him from you, then what is it? 

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[Dezilagel]

Yes of course we should do like this.

I mean, the American system has clearly proven to be WAY superior to everything else, especially in recent times.

[Gnjus]

I propose enacting a system where the people get to choose what changes they want based on the majority of votes.

Judicial Branch (supreme court)
Composed of veteran players like Kesh and Tears_Of_Destiny where these players get to decide if the changes proposed by the Houses are proper before requesting them to be implemented.

We had the Dusk of cRPG for 18 months and just now when the light began to shine you want us to go back into the darkness ? Just cover your head with pillow if you want dark but don't pest the rest of us with it.

[Kafein]

Harald is mainly working on the website. The shiny new one is from him
Cmp is the one in charge of (chadz quote) "WSE witchcraft". And stealth balance changes.
Fasader is the lead unbalancer (but I think many people know this). However I doubt the existence of a "balance team" since I never heard of any particular name. If they exist, they are either extremely shy, or unable to use a forum.
And Meow is the only kind admin. He's assigned to returning lost heirlooms and doing shit for the players that can't use a website properly (that is, entering their password in every text block and clicking on all the buttons in every possible order).