What Religion are you?

[Thick]

You choose not to put your faith in a deity, so you put your faith in mankind and their knowledge of the world. Regardless, you have to put faith into something, whether you believe in a god or not.

[Magikarp]

@Thick: Why would you need to put faith in something? Trust is not needed. You won't come far, but it's possible.

Wildling just made my day.

[Thick]

@Magikarp: You do not know whether you will still be alive tomorrow, but you plan your day anyways because you have "faith" that you will be. It is still uncertain, and there will be no way to prove otherwise, ever.

[Wildling]

@Thick: Why would you need to put faith in something? Trust is not needed. You won't come far, but it's possible.

Wildling just made my day.

I hope I 'made your day' in a good way... 

[BD_Guard_Bane]

It is not a science object: you can prove it exists so it's true; if you can't then it's false.

You can prove matters of faith, in the same sense that you can prove objects of science - its just depends on what you accept as valid proof or evidence.

I don't say I'm an Atheist, I say I'm a human being, like my forefathers before me through thousands of years. They didn't need no gods when they were hunter and gatherer's  and we don't need them now.

What? Regardless of whether you need gods or not, most of the historical and pre-historical evidence suggests that religion (in various forms) has always been around. Of course, so has atheism. Generally in the same proportion too - fewer atheists compared to religious people, as is the case today.

Then you're fucking stupid.

I'm glad atheism has granted you such extraordinary powers of reason

[Thucydides]

Religion requires a feeling elicited by neurochemical reactions within the brain, stimulating a feeling of oneness with a deity or deities.

Science does not depend on feelings.

Science wins!

[LordBerenger]

To me religion is such a hard topic to discuss because most of the people will hold on to their beliefs no matter what arguments will be thrown at them. Whether it's Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hindusim, Atheistic beliefs, agnostic or judaism etc...

In any case you will always get someone to attack eachother beliefs. But in the end you/me could care less about other peoples thoughts and feelings towards your belief because it's your personal decisions in this life that matters in the end. IN MY HUMBLE OPINION.

[Templar_Ratigan]

Im Agnostic more than anything but in term of religion, I respect that on an individual level it can give a person new meaning in life and help them through troubles, but at the same time on a larger level it generally just causes conflict and more problems in the world.

Most religions are no different than any other ideology and the problem with strong ideologies is that sooner or later they are going to come into contact with another strong ideology.
I am not going to say people shouldnt be religious, that isnt my place to say, but I am torn between my views on them and how they can be deliberately twisted to project somone's own personal take of that religion, this is one of the problems Islam currently suffers from as well as Christianity.

I suppose it's really all about being able to differentiate between those who are merely following their religion on a personal level to noone elses detriment, to those who just use it as a tool to meet their own twisted ends.

[Wildling]

What? Regardless of whether you need gods or not, most of the historical and pre-historical evidence suggests that religion (in various forms) has always been around. Of course, so has atheism. Generally in the same proportion too - fewer atheists compared to religious people, as is the case today.

Of course- But these Gods were of nature: Like in Ancient times.

God of Love, God of War... etc.

These religiouns we have now, the biggest are of Abrahamic religioun which preaches mutilation of human body. Like cutting of foreskin on young boys- When it SHOULD be there as nature intended. So tell me, aren't you fucking stupid for believing a God who preaches mulitation, speaking about talking donkeys and wizards who opens oceans?


If we would make a movie about Christianity and Islam, the dominant cults.
It'll be classified as Fantasy; Because the content will be exaclty like Lord of the Rings: Fantasy.

[Tavuk_Bey]

i am jedi 

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[BD_Guard_Bane]

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Of course- But these Gods were of nature: Like in Ancient times.

God of Love, God of War... etc.

These religiouns we have now, the biggest are of Abrahamic religioun which preaches mutilation of human body. Like cutting of foreskin on young boys- When it SHOULD be there as nature intended. So tell me, aren't you fucking stupid for believing a God who preaches mulitation, speaking about talking donkeys and wizards who opens oceans?


If we would make a movie about Christianity and Islam, the dominant cults.
It'll be classified as Fantasy; Because the content will be exaclty like Lord of the Rings: Fantasy.

The Abrahamic tradition of circumcision is different from any other tradition that involves mutilation? There are many traditions like that. Piercings for example, earrings etc. Are tattoos stupid because naturally we don't have them? Or clothes?
No, I don't think anyone is stupid for believing in a God who in the religious text encourages circumcision. Its just another cultural tradition.
I don't know where you got talking donkeys from.
Moses wasn't a wizard by the way - that's emphasised when he battles the Pharaoh's wizards. He doesn't use sorcery, he uses powers that God gives him (its a deliberate attack on sorcerous practices and magic, among other things).

Anyway, there have been quite a few movies made about Christianity and (to a lesser extent) Islam. Also, they're not cults - 'cult' has a technical meaning. Very few of those films have been classified as fantasy.

[Wildling]

Circumcision IS mutilation. Especially when you have no power to say NO, they usually do it when you'r infant.

Eearrings, tatoos and clothes are different... You can chose to have ear-rings, damnit. Same with tatoos. 

Foreskin IS a natural part of a body. It's there for a reason and circumcision IS mutliation just as same with women circumcision in Somalia. If I would have a country, I'd ban it immeditaedly. ( I'm not english, so try to understand my broken engriish xD )

Also, talking donkeys comes from the Old Testament in the Bible.


22:21-29Then the angel of the LORD moved on ahead and stood in a narrow place where there was no room to turn, either to the right or to the left. When the donkey saw the angel of the LORD, she lay down under Balaam, and he was angry and beat her with his staff. Then the LORD opened the donkey's mouth, and she said to Balaam, "What have I done to you to make you beat me these three times?" Balaam answered the donkey, "You have made a fool of me! If I had a sword in my hand, I would kill you right now."


LOl @ ...If I had a sword in my hand, I would kill you right now."

[BD_Guard_Bane]

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Circumcision IS mutilation. Especially when you have no power to say NO, they usually do it when you'r infant.

Eearrings, tatoos and clothes are different... You can chose to have ear-rings, damnit. Same with tatoos. 

Foreskin IS a natural part of a body. It's there for a reason and circumcision IS mutliation just as same with women circumcision in Somalia. If I would have a country, I'd ban it immeditaedly. ( I'm not english, so try to understand my broken engriish xD )

Also, talking donkeys comes from the Old Testament in the Bible.


22:21-29Then the angel of the LORD moved on ahead and stood in a narrow place where there was no room to turn, either to the right or to the left. When the donkey saw the angel of the LORD, she lay down under Balaam, and he was angry and beat her with his staff. Then the LORD opened the donkey's mouth, and she said to Balaam, "What have I done to you to make you beat me these three times?" Balaam answered the donkey, "You have made a fool of me! If I had a sword in my hand, I would kill you right now."


LOl @ ...If I had a sword in my hand, I would kill you right now."

Ah ok, was a long time since I read Numbers. The talking donkey is actually God causing the donkey to speak, of course, so it fits with all the other miracles. I thought you meant an actual talking donkey

Circumcision is mutilation, yes. However, I'm asking how its different from any other form of cultural mutilation tradition? I can see how its different from those that are life threatening or quality of life reducing, obviously (female circumcision for example). And yes, it usually is done to children when they are very young, but so are many things. There are a whole range of cultural traditions applied to infants before they are able to make a choice about it.

Female circumcision has nothing to do with any mainstream religion by the way.

And your English is fine, too

[Razzen]

Im wondering when people sit down and start to think "I will start a religion" and then writes a very long book, just saying.

[HarunYahya]

I worship the mighty being called "Kebab"
I think all universe and humanity created by Kebab and Turks are all prophets of Kebab who tell and teach people the way of eternal happiness by eating Kebabs !
In other words i am Agnostic, i don't believe that God exists or doesn't exist till there are nothing to prove both circumstances.
I try to enjoy my life i don't care if there is an after-life or not.
I actually don't think that god exists with hell-heaven punishments or rewards . I think whole creation can be proved by science some day but till that day I cannot say "There is no god !" cuz there are not enuff proofs.
I also try to follow Islam's teachings (I am talking about Turkish sünni islam not Arabic hard core )
Religion is good for the community it is like moral universal constitution of mankind.I don't believe that tales of prophets but teachings and quotes of them are really good to have a better life.
edit:Berenger  that was zhe topic you revived from death ?