Good ways to die and Lame ways to kill. Trying to measure "Fun".

[Tears of Destiny]

Which means cav is the last class to complain about the amount of cav and archers

Then why does LLJK Heavy Cav bitch about them so often despite still topping the scoreboards -_-

Whiny no-skill NA cav... Says something when Torben comes over and steam rolls the team despite high ping...

[Oberyn]

Not really. We like killing them because they're the ones that most often kill us. It's self explanatory.

[Kalam]

Then why does LLJK Heavy Cav bitch about them so often despite still topping the scoreboards -_-

Whiny no-skill NA cav... Says something when Torben comes over and steam rolls the team despite high ping...

Sometimes, I have trouble not assuming you're some sort of misanthrope.

[Tears of Destiny]

Sometimes, I have trouble not assuming you're some sort of misanthrope.

<3

[Kafein]

Most honorable way of playing cav is slaughtering all those other cav cunts on the opposite team. Only the righteous shall ride! And if you manage to get cav superiority for your team that can very often guarantee a win.

A wise man.

You still using the arab warhorse ? Good choice there. I still have mine I think. Best horse for taking out other lancers.

[Torben]

You still using the arab warhorse ? Good choice there. I still have mine I think. Best horse for taking out other lancers.

true.  shes a pain in the butt.  but a sexy one.

[Kafein]

true.  shes a pain in the butt.  but a sexy one.

The price went up again right ? I remember it was 780k for a champ arab not so long ago.

[Torben]

ya,  still a bit less than they should be due to 7riding skill shortage,  but they managed to be worth over a million for sure.

[oohillac]

I find it extremely satisfying to kill footmen as cavalry (1h cav here), and I find it challenging to do so most of the time.  Everybody seems to pack a spear these days.
Horse archers annoy me, but I either avoid them or team up with other cavalry.
I try to avoid complaining on how I die, as I know the vast majority of the time it was my fault.
The most fun for me comes from the ragdoll models, wish more games had them, and the plain fact that I'm playing a FPS-like action game but it's third-person and has swords.

As for the ladders, I think certain buildings in each map should have hollowed-out, "inside" models with staircases to the roof and windows, and ladders are removed. That way, archers can stay up high if they like, yet frustrated melee can at least die throwing themselves at a possible-to-kill enemy camping a staircase, rather than an unscalable building. I have no idea if there are models already made for some of the building interiors, so this may not work.

[Ohayashi]

Upon round start I run off to whichever field the cavalry congregates and jump slash them down to size. I dislike mounted.

[Torben]

Upon round start I run off to whichever field the cavalry congregates and jump slash them down to size. I dislike mounted.

actually i love doing the same with my pilgrim disguise and my lhb : )

[BlackMilk]

Lamest Death: Archers kills Infantry
Most satisfying kill: Infantry kills Infantry

I like to feel in control of the way I die. If I can feel like I screwed up in some way then fine, I have no problem dying at all. If I fail to block or make a bad move I should die. Similarly if I get a kill against another infantry I find it pretty satisfying. I don't really mind dying to cav because at least they have to get up close and you can block them, and hear them coming usually. You can see the skill some cav players have too. But if a pack of archers shoot me, especially in the middle of a fairish fight I kinda feel cheated. I have an archer alt and I just find it boring. I can even choose 10 more points in melee with my 2 hander (at 150 odd atm) or 80 odd in crossbows, and not have any balancing factor to stop me whipping out a crossbow when I feel like it. I use a shield but that can only help so much. I can wait for half the round until there are fewer archers or more opportunities to flank, but thats half a round wasted. It just slows the whole gameplay down imo.

I don't even think removing ladders is the way to fix it. It could help, but then you will just get people standing at medium range doing the same thing, while having easier shots and being lower down so more likely to hit a team mate. If their team mates are smart they will have infantry guarding them too and then if you over extend you will die shortly after possibly killing something

The ranged mechanics in the game are just too simple when you have awesome depth elsewhere. Not enough arc on the shots and too much damage, plus the debilitating stun when hit which is independent of the damage. Needs an overhaul imo. Oh, and the effort they put in for the payoff in damage is pretty comical to me. Shouldn't be piercing

agreed with every single point of the statement

[Lech]

Paul, do something with run away archers. They 2 hit me and i can't catch them with my 8 athletics (i have 3 if and 15 str and +3 armor and gloves), it's not cool anymore. Decrease their speed so people with 5 athletics can catch archers in light armor and then i can deal with getting 2 hit killed - if they want run away they should throw away their bows/xbows.

[Vexus]

For me lamest would be couch killing as you only need to be accurate or lucky to score a free kill.

Many times I see people fall for the cheap trick at the start of every fucking round and they still keep on moving forward as if nothing happened....

"Oh the pal next to me just died hmm must be magic let's keep on moving forward without looking at my back"

So I blame stupidity too but still I hate couch kills.

[robert_namo]

My option for lamest death is not on there, which is getting run over by a cav, dying to the player you were fighting, or getting run over and shot by multiple archers with the arrow stun so you can't dodge anything.