Buff polearm length and thrust damage, nerf (swing) speed

[Noble Crassius]

Check out any film based on ancient china and you'll get your fill of spear/pole arm dueling,

[zagibu]

Well, there are different kinds of spears. Some are short and work more like staffs, others are long and meant to be used in formations.

Am I the only one that thinks a great sword is almost the same thing as a poleaxe? The greatsword is a bit faster, the poleaxe has bonus against shields, but they both play almost the same.

[Gorath]

I've seen enough Jet Li movies to know how effective a spear is for dueling in the right hands.  But then again, Jackie Chan could win a duel with just a ladder.

Which is why I still say ladders should be able to be used as polearm weapons.  It's realistic.

[Seawied]

Which is why I still say ladders should be able to be used as polearm weapons.  It's realistic.

+1 awesome point for this comment

[Brutal]

Which is why I still say ladders should be able to be used as polearm weapons.  It's realistic.

Plus think of all the lol TK that would happen when you turn around hearing cav coming.
Realistic and funny let's do it!!!

[Furax]

Should all checkout "The Warlords" for some awesome hafted blade action, Jet Li's spamming is unbeatable.

[owens]

I completely agree with this. I have a pole arm character and a 2H char. Its hard to say which is best but in larger battles or when you are against more than one opponent the pole arm comes into its own the superior length and pole arm stun make it better against larger numbers. but the 2H weapons are faster and better against skilled opponents or faster face huggers. I would like to see spears actually being effective against horses and doing more stab damage. A stab from a spear or pike would have been devastating (try it with a broom) but swinging a spear around is clumsy and should be weaker although not slower.

+I want to be able to swing sideways with my bamboo spear even if its only 10 blunt

[v/onMega]

Hmm...Polearms are pretty damm ok when u ask me.

Played 2H swords for about 700 hours. Got 2 masterwork swords stashed but play a polearm build this gen.

Tbh, specially when loomed (I play stock ones) nearly all polearms have a way better dmg output than swords, a bonus (against shield/knockdown), and a stun.

Advanced Pike users are hard to fight against solo/ super ugly to fight when in a group of 2+ (e.g. Craftybadger)

Ive seen one guy being a monster with a triple loomed warspear (Everkistus).

I dont think polearms need any kind of buff at all. Thats just from what ive seen and played myself.

[UrLukur]

Hmm...Polearms are pretty damm ok when u ask me.

Played 2H swords for about 700 hours. Got 2 masterwork swords stashed but play a polearm build this gen.

Tbh, specially when loomed (I play stock ones) nearly all polearms have a way better dmg output than swords, a bonus (against shield/knockdown), and a stun.

Advanced Pike users are hard to fight against solo/ super ugly to fight when in a group of 2+ (e.g. Craftybadger)

Ive seen one guy being a monster with a triple loomed warspear (Everkistus).

I dont think polearms need any kind of buff at all. Thats just from what ive seen and played myself.

+1. Triple loomed glavie or long hafted blades are also great weapons.

[Gorath]

Should all checkout "The Warlords" for some awesome hafted blade action, Jet Li's spamming is unbeatable.

Indeed.  Such a badass movie.

[Siiem]

Yes? Herp derp.

For instance, poleaxe techniques (which were used by armoured knights and men at arms, both for battlefield use and for dueling) inherited a lot from quarterstaff fighting techniques.

Polearms, poleaxe. Weapons used to kill armoured knights training weapons, staff. Now show me proof that anyone acutally went to battle with just a spear and used it as a poleaxe or halberd.

[Gorath]

Polearms, poleaxe. Weapons used to kill armoured knights training weapons, staff. Now show me proof that anyone acutally went to battle with just a spear and used it as a poleaxe or halberd.

"In ancient China, many advanced martial artists and warriors knew that this pointed implement under the usage of a proficient spearmen was both lethal and formidable.  Two of the top spear proponents were the famous General Yueh Fei and the first Woman Warrior-Fa Mu Lan. Both warriors were considered invincible due to their proficiency of the spear in combat.  Stories have it that General Yueh Fei developed the Xing Yi mind-shaping boxing system based on his proficiency with the spear and other martial art systems.  Yang Cheng Fu of the Yang Family Tai Chi fame always carried a short single-head spear for protection. It served the dual training function of a straight sword and a short staff.

Under the guise of warfare, the British in the mid-nineteenth century concluded that the Chinese spear was far superior to their bayonets. Currently, the weapon is smaller and its uses are compressed into about thirty different methods." - Ancient Chinese Warfare by Ralph D. Sawyer

[Siiem]

"In ancient China, many advanced martial artists and warriors knew that this pointed implement under the usage of a proficient spearmen was both lethal and formidable.  Two of the top spear proponents were the famous General Yueh Fei and the first Woman Warrior-Fa Mu Lan. Both warriors were considered invincible due to their proficiency of the spear in combat.  Stories have it that General Yueh Fei developed the Xing Yi mind-shaping boxing system based on his proficiency with the spear and other martial art systems.  Yang Cheng Fu of the Yang Family Tai Chi fame always carried a short single-head spear for protection. It served the dual training function of a straight sword and a short staff.

Under the guise of warfare, the British in the mid-nineteenth century concluded that the Chinese spear was far superior to their bayonets. Currently, the weapon is smaller and its uses are compressed into about thirty different methods." - Ancient Chinese Warfare by Ralph D. Sawyer

Yes, yes the damn chinese, they allso claimed they invented spaghetti and football. My point is they lie too much. 

" Both warriors were considered invincible due to their proficiency of the spear in combat"

And my dick is the length of 2000 black men's.

[Aldwyn]

Dude spears, even with shields are fine.  Just don't expect to be able to duel with it (unless you're good or your opponents bad). 

[Everkistus]

The war spear is quite fine as it is. I'd like to see a top- or even a medium-tier spear, since the war spear (awlpike is a not a spear) is a low-tier weapon. Or rather, seeing the war spear getting a buff to a medium-tier weapon

Also thanks vMega for the compliments.